Breaking aCis ToA

[Tryskell]

I already reported the following topic to moderators using the "Report" button, which breaks my own ToA. For an unknown reason, it was dropped then rehabilited.

 

The ToA is public, and spread over my own Discord channel, forums, MxC subforums - so there is nothing like hidden content and no possibility of an error.

 

https://maxcheaters.com/topic/238926-l2jacis-custom-pvp-server-ready-for-open/?tab=comments#comment-2768642

 

I request the drop of that topic.

 

PS : I got nothing towards the author, all people have to follow the same rules. The main reasons for such a rule are, the author got no pretention to maintain his pack, meaning any issue his buyers would have will go directly to me, for no specific reasons (I'm not paid). Moreover, it will fill my own forums report section with invalid reports, mostly due to added customs or due to the fact the dude uses an older revision.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Tryskell

[Trance]

I totally understand you. Regardless of aCis' ToA, MxC has no such rules in place to support this. I brought this into discussion, if Maxtor/Global Mods want to do something about it. This would mean that we have to give up every aCis thread on the market.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Trance

[xdem]

They should be allowed to sell their files based on the free sources, leaks shouldn't be allowed OK - but kinda egoistic approach to block all of them.

 

I use aCis rev 190 since like 10 years ago and I even upgraded it to a H5 server, looks nothing alike aCis anymore, If I wanted to sell or share it for free once I retire I would certainly not require your permission.

 

PS1: You are based on L2J H5 do not forget where you started - They did the heavy lifting for us!

 

PS2: Every report counts. Even the third party ones.

Edited January 25, 2021 by xdem

[HyperBlown]

Damn, You should see the Brazillian forums, all they have is frozen and acis resells/shares. its really sad.

[Kara]

@TryskellMay i ask you something. I'm not into Interlude Community and i respect your work but where is the point where you seperate L2J source to your code?

[Rootware]

11 minutes ago, xdem said:

They should be allowed to sell their files based on the free sources, leaks shouldn't be allowed OK - but kinda egoistic approach to block all of them.

 

I use aCis rev 190 since like 10 years ago and I even upgraded it to a H5 server, looks nothing alike aCis anymore, If I wanted to sell or share it for free once I retire I would certainly not require your permission.

 

PS1: You are based on L2J H5 do not forget where you started - They did the heavy lifting for us!

 

PS2: Every report counts. Even the third party ones.

 

You can sell a diff patch for this aCis revision with you customs and this is does not contradict with aCis ToA.

[Zake]

5 minutes ago, Kara said:

@TryskellMay i ask you something. I'm not into Interlude Community and i respect your work but where is the point where you seperate L2J source to your code?

I think he asked to cooperate with l2j many years ago and they rejected

[xdem]

51 minutes ago, Rootware said:

 

You can sell a diff patch for this aCis revision with you customs and this is does not contradict with aCis ToA.

 

If you reffer to me personnally it would be dumb to share a diff of bigger size than aCis itself. 

 

And cut the bullshit about diff patch when you are talking to me, diff patch is useless for unsynched branches when that big

Edited January 25, 2021 by xdem

[Kara]

44 minutes ago, Zake said:

I think he asked to cooperate with l2j many years ago and they rejected

Alright but let's say i take aCis. (I'll use random values to get my point).
70% of code is by Zoey76, 30% is made/adjusted by Tryskell. How we know whos code is. 

The whole thing is a mess. Tryskell should lock aCis forever and make it via payment only for subscribed.

 

[Tryskell]

37 minutes ago, Zake said:

I think he asked to cooperate with l2j many years ago and they rejected

 

I asked both to Zoey76 to maintain IL branch directly on L2J, and to L2JFrozen to merge with me - and both refused.

 

Zoey76 refused because he was "supporting" L2JFrozen instead of my pack, back in time. I don't remember why Shyla/Nefer refused, most probably because of divergence about what needed to be done : Shyla considered than hotfixes are a way to fix, while me, instead, I'm the sort of people who uses dynamite to rebuild on a clean ground.

 

I didn't understand you question, @Kara.

[xdem]

4 minutes ago, Kara said:

Alright but let's say i take aCis. (I'll use random values to get my point).
70% of code is by Zoey76, 30% is made/adjusted by Tryskell. How we know whos code is. 

The whole thing is a mess. Tryskell should lock aCis forever and make it via payment only for subscribed.

 

 

let me correct this to less than 5% for tryskell given that work for packets - htmls - datapack - database - project base is inheritted from L2J

 

aCis is reworks - refactors - renamings and corrections, don't forget about the contributors its not just Tryskell but the whole community

Edited January 25, 2021 by xdem

[Kara]

6 minutes ago, Tryskell said:

 

I asked both to Zoey76 to maintain IL branch directly on L2J, and to L2JFrozen to merge with me - and both refused.

 

Zoey76 refused because he was "supporting" L2JFrozen instead of my pack, back in time. I don't remember why Shyla/Nefer refused, most probably because of divergence about what needed to be done : Shyla considered than hotfixes are a way to fix, while me, instead, I'm the sort of people who uses dynamite to rebuild on a clean ground.

 

I didn't understand you question, @Kara.

 

I said that You work on @Zoey76 source and it's a mess already cause its a combination of your work and their work. Since you feel like you did a heavy re-work why don't you lock aCis and make it via payment? Even amateur projects are locked nowadays such as L2JHellas. 

You should also protect your work since they don't respect you. 

 

5 minutes ago, xdem said:

 

let me correct this to less than 5% for tryskell given that work for packets - htmls - datapack - database - project base is inheritted from L2J

 

aCis is reworks - refactors - renamings and corrections, don't forget about the contributors its not just Tryskell but the whole community

 

Yes i know. For me the best "developer" i've ever seen it's by far @Zoey76 and even if we work 10 years we won't balance the work he did for us. All projects right now (in my opinion) exists because of him yet nobody credit their work. We are greed.

[Tryskell]

1 minute ago, xdem said:

 

let me correct this to less than 5% for tryskell given that work for packets - htmls - datapack - database - project base is inheritted from L2J

 

Because you stucked at rev 190 - it's way higher than 5%.

 

L2J IL don't even have IL skills, partymatching isn't implemented, cb aswell, scripts are in jython and rates aren't checked (when quests aren't simply exploitable), there are at least 6 fat exploits which can easy ruin your server...

 

I got 600+ archived bug reports, that's without counting my own reworks which generally fix many things...

 

I reworked countless things, I can speak about it and make a list but that would be long and annoying, if you don't want to see it that's fine, but you are at worst, simply lying, and at best, ignorant about the work done over the years.

[xdem]

Just now, Kara said:

Yes i know. For me the best "developer" i've ever seen it's by far @Zoey76 and even if we work 10 years we won't balance the work he did for us. All projects right now (in my opinion) exists because of him yet nobody credit their work. We are greed.

 

This is nonsense, Zoey76 is new generation L2JServer developer, and there where far greater contributors before him. L2JServer is a huge project and it can't be credited to a single person, especially him.

1 minute ago, Tryskell said:

 

Because you stucked at rev 190 - it's way higher than 5%.

 

L2J IL don't even have IL skills, partymatching isn't implemented, cb aswell, scripts are in jython and rates aren't checked (when quests aren't simply exploitable), there are at least 6 fat exploits which can easy ruin your server...

 

I got 600+ archived bug reports, that's without counting my own reworks which generally fix many things...

 

I reworked countless things, I can speak about it and make a list but that would be long and annoying, if you don't want to see it that's fine, but you are at worst, simply lying, and at best, ignorant about the work done over the years.

 

Why should I be lying? I've always said your work is well respected but even with your huge contribution you are still a drip drop in the sea comparing to what all of us including players contributed to L2J - which you inherrited to create aCis ! This is a fact that you can't deny

 

 

[Kara]

1 minute ago, xdem said:

 

This is nonsense, Zoey76 is new generation L2JServer developer, and there where far greater contributors before him. L2JServer is a huge project and it can't be credited to a single person, especially him.

 

Alright you're right it was developed by multiple people @Zoey76 for me represent all these people who provided this "stable" pack for us to leech and make our "projects". 

 

Only those who spend days doing all these packet sniffing (especially in H5 that is a mess), should be credit on each file we make. 

 

You get what i mean. @Tryskellmostly did a clean up and partial rework not big engine re-work (at least so far), but still he should lock it and make it private.