SkyLord Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I am offering / selling ddos protection for any server. only for people who have ovh dedicated / installed os: windows. https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/game/prices/ 1) Licence - €50 /month 2) Licence - €500 /forever - /app/source c++ /php skype: f4sh10n discord: SkyLord#8363 f4sh10n@mail.com Edited October 29, 2019 by SkyLord 2
Contessina* Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, SkyLord said: I am offering / selling ddos protection for any server. only for people who have ovh dedicated / installed os: windows. https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/game/prices/ 1) Licence - €50 /month 2) Licence - €500 /forever - /app/source c++ /php skype: f4sh10n discord: SkyLord#8363 f4sh10n@mail.com OVH gameservers dont have already DDos protection ? why some1 should buy yours? 1
BruT Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) good luck with your sales Edited October 30, 2019 by BruT 1
SkyLord Posted October 29, 2019 Author Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I don’t want to argue nor to explain how it is working. Edited October 29, 2019 by SkyLord 1
Freakazoid Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 10 hours ago, SkyLord said: I don’t want to argue nor to explain how it is working. Then how are you willing to sell your product? You must be a great businessman. 1
Akar0 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Can you explain what make your DDOS protection "Better" than OVH DDOS protection? As far I know, OVH services include this services.
Nightw0lf Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) On 10/29/2019 at 2:38 AM, SkyLord said: only for people who have ovh dedicated / installed os: windows. https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/game/prices/ 1) Licence - €50 /month 2) Licence - €500 /forever - /app/source c++ /php your ddos is application related? licence not license for app/source c++ /php explain how you ddos protect the PHP and C++ i am all ears! dude if you keep like that i will report you for scamming stop your bullshit specially when you dont care to explain what you sell and when you dont know what you sell or how it works Edited October 30, 2019 by Nightw0lf
SkyLord Posted October 30, 2019 Author Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Red-Hair-Shanks said: Give more details about that skylord Write me a pm. 7 hours ago, Akar0 said: Can you explain what make your DDOS protection "Better" than OVH DDOS protection? As far I know, OVH services include this services. Like i said ... I don’t want to argue nor to explain how it is working. 7 hours ago, Nightw0lf said: your ddos is application related? licence not license for app/source c++ /php explain how you ddos protect the PHP and C++ i am all ears! dude if you keep like that i will report you for scamming stop your bullshit specially when you dont care to explain what you sell and when you dont know what you sell or how it works you don't have brain for that.. leave my topic. 2
Nik Posted October 31, 2019 Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Application layer ddos protection that works only for windows? o.O? I mean, kudos for supporting this crappy OS which shouldn't be used for servers, but one can get only so much from it... OVH ddos protection is protecting you against huge ddoses, but small ones might be considered for normal traffic, therefore are passed to the gameserver. Since most of the gameservers have very bad network management, they get pwned by above than normal traffic, which OVH still considers as normal traffic. In such case having an extra application that can filter-out bad traffic might work, but its a very limited case. Its enough for a smart guy to craft a better attack and this kind of protection becomes not so useful. That being said, on windows you will meet nothing better than an application-layer protection, which is not great, at all - you will need more powerful PC to protect against attacks compared to using Linux/BSD with proper firewall settings. In many cases iptables/netfilter/pf will filter out bad traffic orders of magnitude faster than windows. If you are helpless person who is still running l2 server on windows and you have enough money and lack of knowledge to afford such protection, then go on, take the gamble and hope this kind of protection works, otherwise I suggest you to start running your servers on a proper server OS like Linux, BSD, or whatever, its not that hard to do so, the only hard part is configuring your firewall. P.S. I have no idea if this guy is selling snake oil (scam) or is selling a real, working product. I do not suggest you to buy it or not buy it, I just tell you from experience the point of this topic. Edited October 31, 2019 by Nik 1 1
SkyLord Posted October 31, 2019 Author Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Nik said: Application layer ddos protection that works only for windows? o.O? I mean, kudos for supporting this crappy OS which shouldn't be used for servers, but one can get only so much from it... OVH ddos protection is protecting you against huge ddoses, but small ones might be considered for normal traffic, therefore are passed to the gameserver. Since most of the gameservers have very bad network management, they get pwned by above than normal traffic, which OVH still considers as normal traffic. In such case having an extra application that can filter-out bad traffic might work, but its a very limited case. Its enough for a smart guy to craft a better attack and this kind of protection becomes not so useful. That being said, on windows you will meet nothing better than an application-layer protection, which is not great, at all - you will need more powerful PC to protect against attacks compared to using Linux/BSD with proper firewall settings. In many cases iptables/netfilter/pf will filter out bad traffic orders of magnitude faster than windows. If you are helpless person who is still running l2 server on windows and you have enough money and lack of knowledge to afford such protection, then go on, take the gamble and hope this kind of protection works, otherwise I suggest you to start running your servers on a proper server OS like Linux, BSD, or whatever, its not that hard to do so, the only hard part is configuring your firewall. P.S. I have no idea if this guy is selling snake oil (scam) or is selling a real, working product. I do not suggest you to buy it or not buy it, I just tell you from experience the point of this topic. So, first im not selling any "snake oil", fake fails or scam items everything is legit. I have worked on this protection for over 3 years and it's specificly made for windows because my server works on windows only. The whole taffic to the server is 100% protected and i know it is because I have had many attacks towards it in the range of 400gbps to 800gbps. I don't have the intention of arguing with anyone as I have said in my previous post so the bottom line is I know what im selling here. P.S: I know that there is a really good protection on Linux to be made but my server has always ran on windows server 2012. I just don't want to risk with the other OS. 1
Dimis4 Posted November 28, 2019 Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) There is a big true behind his post! Yes there are undetected ddos attacks focusing ovh at this moment. These Layer7 attacks using hundreds of thousands ips flooding your open tcp ports ( with traffic that seems to be legitimate) causing a denial of service on your rootserver. The way skylord's protection work is really smart and keeps out these unwanted ips. Since tcp cant achieve high throughput comparing to udp ( all udp attacks are dedected and easy to mitigate from ovh ) and after a packet analysis i made to some last ddos attacks the only way to harm you is to find open ports of your gameserver and attack there. ( as Nik correctly stated above the bad networking is one of the reason this attack can harm you , but not only that ) So keeping this ips out and only legit ips in, with an application layer protection is the only possible solution stay "safe". How to do this? put your mind to work. ( i don't wanna give more info in public ) i have just developed my own version of this protection on c++ which needs minimal resources to run and i maintain myself in order to protect my servers and i will add it live soon. my version is available for both linux / windows and planing to sell the linux version only since i dont want to cut profit from skylord and his idea. but even if it sound weird for you , yes this protection works you. i can discuss in private only about that. PS: Skylord is 100% true on what he is saying and he is not trying to scam anyone. He just couldn't or didn't want to give more details in public. Edited November 28, 2019 by Dimis4 1 1
Trance Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 If server owners know nothing about networking, let em' pay hundreds for something simple. :) 2
AlmostGood Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 use OVHs edge firewall and own rule set with default drop all, extend L2 client to calculate some math challange before login request is attempted, send result together with some hwid/ip to aws/gcp instance which will verify it and query OVHs firewall api to allow login. Mystery of application layer "100% DDos Protection" solved. 1
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