Discussion aCis vs Lucera

StinkyMadness · April 3, 2021

@L2RAPTOR I joined on your server to see what is so special there.. maybe I don't get it.. but 10 offline stores players.. 0 online.. discord total 3 members.. and free broken interface.

I hope you can give me some info about what happened to the players that was so satisfied of your server.
(And this have nothing to do with the project source/pack but with the way you was talking about that players are the ultimate judges)

Kara · April 3, 2021

This topic is gold.

First time i see in 12 year(s) Elfo self ban guy to write a Tryskell like comment just for the sake of a guy and pretty much all forum's developers versus a poor child.

Side quest: PHP vs Java

Pin it now before i lose my interest.

Nightw0lf · April 3, 2021

11 hours ago, L2RAPTOR said:

Title of topic is ACIS vs Lucera. wants opinion on which is better and why.

Does not say just from developers.

So I give my opinion as an ADMIN and player...Neither. I prefer L2jOrion pack and support.

My point is developers pick out details that do not impact Admins or players in any significant way, but in the "developers world" it is how they judge a pack. The most important opinions is that of Admins+players.. otherwise there would be no developers for L2.

Because a developer picks out useless lines of code from a pack, it does not make the pack "trash".

If it does not effect the experience or the game of the players then who cares? Only developers care about this.

If ACIS and Lucera were the last 2 packs on earth and I would have to pick which I prefer, then I would say ACIS.

Only because I see the effort Tryskell makes to upgrade and improve ACIS.

That is what is not given enough consideration here - SUPPORT. You must consider support of the pack as well, when considering a "best" pack.

This is why ACIS is better than Lucera .

And this is another reason why I think L2jOrion is superior to these other packs. Excellent support.

So, developers look at a pack from their perspective, how code is written, cleaning up useless code...i am sure some of this can effect server performance and is necessary.

Admins look at a pack from a different perspective, bugs, geo data, ease of edits/adding customs, cost, support

Players care very little about the pack. Players look at server for bugs, geo data, lag, bots, server concept.

Is it not funny that the only people responding to this topic are developers and me ... Not players.

But in the end, the players are the ultimate judge.

LMAO

LMAO! I know you are fucking around making this post..but 400 euro?

I don't mind talking shit back and forth...

but when you say words and numbers some people do not understand you are joking.

I have not tested every l2j pack.. but L2jOrion is the best I have tested.

I have had this pack for many years, received many updates, and great support.

So yes, L2jOrion is the best frozen pack in "my world".

i had client (in fact he is staff here) who show me the transaction of 400euro for sources :) he was paid fully, i was not joking Mr.Admin.

PS: never go full retard,

i mean

next lesson learn how to make an api :'( @Kara do you know how api works? or you still adding db info in your source?

this Vilmis guy exposes everybody who has as customers on doggy style position showing IP's like that, also if you as customer share info about this pack obviously you get banned from his forums :'(

here some ip's that i've found on internet

185.80.128.233
178.32.103.121
87.98.188.140
localhost
213.136.73.186
66.249.85.19
5.144.232.190
127.0.0.1
173.208.205.202
localhost
177.201.126.107
62.210.109.121
168.195.136.18
localhost
177.86.175.206
78.58.239.104
127.0.0.1
200.199.182.96
127.0.0.1
45.235.54.125
78.58.39.131
200.120.121.15
83.31.143.197
173.212.202.156
95.140.40.42
147.135.252.27
localhost
l2trebon.ddns.net
81.99.138.180
62.171.175.168
84.123.2.100
l2noxusinterlude.ddns.net
52.22.28.96
5.188.70.102
90.218.162.107
51.83.185.132
151.80.110.37
82.40.230.239
zeth.sytes.net
interserver.ddns.net
144.76.109.220
l2play.ggames.eu
159.69.105.10
213.32.7.75
173.249.51.19
188.215.245.18
88.87.30.10
89.203.249.139
109.103.76.161
51.79.38.96
92.222.78.191
88.218.2.196
l2dasisinterlude.go.ro
91.211.245.27
176.31.101.67
2.99.71.106
185.34.52.198
74.210.207.120
90.240.69.157
planb.hopto.org
185.69.53.200
85.255.54.132
89.136.210.210
85.206.8.44
51.75.240.57
137.74.246.36
81.133.239.208
la2helena.servegame.com
localhost
194.31.52.252
l2disastr.ddns.net
45.144.64.20
192.168.0.33
31.153.77.187
79.131.166.101
auth.la2-md.com
51.38.238.103
5.13.250.235
62.171.175.128
51.81.61.134
91.2.90.10
167.114.67.38
51.38.60.111
87.236.197.47
51.222.38.119
93.89.171.21
144.217.81.124
190.114.253.63
83.193.81.155
localhost
167.86.66.173
82.165.54.49
164.68.117.105
51.83.172.35
127.0.0.1
37.221.209.109
116.203.218.175
161.97.117.60

Edited April 3, 2021 by Nightw0lf

Kara · April 3, 2021

3 hours ago, L2RAPTOR said:

Lastly, I did not create my server to make money. It is a hobby that I love. I accept donations, but don't need them. That is why I have donation items drop in game. It doesn't matter to me. i will continue to evolve, upgrade my server regardless of donation money.

Since this topic is suppose to be about ACIS vs Lucera and not L2RAPTOR vs All MXC Devs I will end with this. I would choose ACIS because of Tryskell's efforts and support. But still prefer L2jOrion over all others

As I said, I appreciate your time and opinion

As i mentioned before i had hundreds clients over the last year and the majority act the same.

-I do not create my server for money

-I will continue develop my server even if nobody join

-I have experience as a player and i know what community need

-I was playing at <server> but it lack of <exquse> so i'll fill the gaps and community will move in to me

So i'll simply tell you that you sound like them.

In conclusion you judge servers files by what? throwing some custom content in? Open a low rate server x 1 and let few people join in.

Even in such old chronicle like interlude they will quit after 5 minute due to lack of quest(s), scripts and PvE.

L2J got the wrong way currently since my beloved Joey allow amateurs like Stalitsa to commit at the project and turn it into a custom trash by adding Scheme Buffers for 5 months that nobody can edit because it's a combination between dynamic elements in html and 1.250 extending each other files in script. Still i can appreciate the retail work they did over years as every of you should do. aCis, Frozen and any other emulator out there, they lift the heavy work for you so you can fetch some source and edit over years and call it "your project". Those are the true leaders of L2J community, the rest are just copy-cats who fetch and modify.

So yes Vilmis since you wrote to me i'll include you here, when a guy open a topic like this:

he must accept criticism from people who have actual experience in programming and no mislead by custom features. Interlude is a small and poor community driven by fail projects since L2J quit it early. aCis, Lucera, frozen (i guess?) and frozen with extra customs (Orion). All of them are unfinished projects with aCis taking the lead but not be the main preference due to lack of custom.

You know Vilmis why your beloved minion picked your project? Because he is lazy and probably poor to find a proper developer and add custom(s) in aCis. True aCis is in bad shape last time i checked with character stuck in water but at least he work on movement... i guess for 2.5 years but that doesn't matter at least he work. The best thing you can do in your project is to add more custom, fix the custom and fill gaps with badly written codes. Your change-log proves that.

So no 90% of changelog saying "Fixed" and refer to re-organize import or fix custom content doesn't mean this is a good project especially when those custom are shared from MaxCheaters.

So L2-RAPTOR, no you're nothing special, you're just another guy with a PvP server. You want to advertise your project? Do it in your website once you're successful. Don't open a topic claiming it's a great project and then write "STFU" to everyone who come and say it's not especially when those people have a great experience and i'm not talking for Elfocrash he might be good in lecturing and have sufficient knowledge but he has the same toxicity attitude when you challenge him on a subject he used to work or working now. I speak for other people who wrote you a comment and your answer was "post proofs or STFU" including me that you wrote me "stop posting here". Consider if people like me stop "posting here" you won't have anyone answering in your HELP section. So give some respect to the remaining developers in this forum and instead of face their opinion embrace it, you might learn something even if our/their way is not the proper one, we/they motivate you to take a step back and think again.

1 hour ago, Nightw0lf said:

i had client (in fact he is staff here) who show me the transaction of 400euro for sources :) he was paid fully, i was not joking Mr.Admin.

PS: never go full retard,

i mean

host: 185.80.128.233

database: forum_db

username: mrcopyright
password: copyright123

next lesson learn how to make an api @Kara do you know how api works? or you still adding db info in your source?

Well sometimes you're just lazy and try find the fast way i guess.

Edited April 3, 2021 by Kara

Nightw0lf · April 3, 2021

1 minute ago, Kara said:

L2J got the wrong way currently since my beloved Joey allow amateurs like Stalitsa to commit at the project and turn it into a custom trash by adding Scheme Buffers for 5 months that nobody can edit because it's a combination between dynamic elements in html and 1.250 extending each other files in script. Still i can appreciate the retail work they did over years as every of you should do. aCis, Frozen and any other emulator out there, they did lift the heavy work for you so you can fetch some source and edit over years and call it "your project". Those are the true leaders of L2J community, the rest are just copy-cats who fetch and modify.

!WARNING! toxicity is at critical levels, !WARNING!

Kara · April 3, 2021

1 minute ago, Nightw0lf said:

!WARNING! toxicity is at critical levels, !WARNING!

You know i have to advertise Joey76 whenever i go. I still fall for him every time i see his well structured and clean codes.

Nightw0lf · April 3, 2021

in the change log it says that

OPTIMIZATION ALL CORE ENGINE AND OPTIMIZED PERFORMANCE

did he provide proofs of that?

i think he went to php there a bit he try to re-write l2j into another lang

i miss this kind of fixes

FIXED - Attack speed bug when attack speed is bigger than 1,5k.

if (speed > 1500)

{

speed = 1500;

}

Kara · April 3, 2021

8 minutes ago, Nightw0lf said:

in the change log it says that

OPTIMIZATION ALL CORE ENGINE AND OPTIMIZED PERFORMANCE

did he provide proofs of that?

i think he went to php there a bit he try to re-write l2j into another lang

Now you're just a hater. Vilmis is handsome looking guy tho if that's his real photo

You on the other hand look like a nuclear particle fusion that went completely wrong.

So stop hate on him, he is beautiful at least.

P.S. Vilmis please a tip when you want to limit a value stop using old like code such as:

if (speed > 1500)

{

speed = 1500;

}

return speed;

use at least:

return Math.min(speed, 1500);

Edited April 3, 2021 by Kara

Nightw0lf · April 3, 2021

3 changesets the past 3 years,

22 updates since 2018. something is wrong here.

what i liked most is that poor kid who still try to support him i mean he even gone full retard to defend this trash, its like he watch his gf fuck another guy and she says its not what you think, and he says ok as long as we will be together

PS

Also, we are looking for the new members (Russians, Spanish, and Portuguese) to the team which can speak English (requirements: a good English language). Contact us, we have an offer for you.

http://prntscr.com/113aqwj

Edited April 3, 2021 by Nightw0lf

Kara · April 3, 2021

2 minutes ago, Nightw0lf said:

3 changesets the past 3 years,

22 updates since 2018. something is wrong here.

You drain his energy. How is he going to commit changes when you yell at him?

Boorinio is known in history for "alaksokolies" and Vilmis for posting changelog more sparsely than Tryskell.

No hate Tryskell, we love you. Even tho le croissants originate from Romania.

Nightw0lf · April 3, 2021

Just now, Kara said:

You drain his energy. How is he going to commit changes when you yell at him?

Boorinio is known in history for "alaksokolies" and Vilmis for posting changelog more sparsely than Tryskell.

No hate Tryskell, we love you. Even tho le croissants originate from Romania.

@Karawhy you dont join his team it does not matter if you are BR fanboi you can still apply for developer not paid 7/7 and his friendship its the most amazing package

Kara · April 3, 2021

2 minutes ago, Nightw0lf said:

@Karawhy you dont join his team it does not matter if you are BR fanboi you can still apply for developer not paid 7/7 and his friendship its the most amazing package

You believe Vilmis would hire me as co-developer? If yes how can i apply?