[L2J] L2Tales

[Pleyne]

Saga GMs/admin cant never ever talk about tales projects. Why? Kostas a.k.a saga admin bought files of l2tales which I was using back in the days and anyone could buy them from guy named Ady.( The guy who got files from mouse when he was in l2tales team). Dude, you started your project on vampir files, asking me if they are legit to buy from Ady. Wtf??? You should never cut feeding hand as your project is based on it. If anyone reading this thinking wtf are you talking about - search l2tales files for sell(saga started from them and grew). Same for Mythras source for here (it's

based on same shared source as l2saga). - you can all download files and start same as Saga started. Later on they bought same donation system as in tales(based on L2CCCP) and tried to have 1:1 features as tales(again, i can give nickname of kostas in mxc and you will find his post of buying 1:1 donate panel from tales).

Why i'm defending tales? Vampir gave fucking huge inovation for h5 or any lineage project(Saga and Alex(mouse)/sorin projects are always trying to get those features). Tales featutres are used by russian projects as well (i'm talking about open-team a.k.a. top russian sources behind private ones and pain-team and /

L2scripts trying to copy that and sell as vip sources loooooool). Tales is all about new ideas, which all projects can take ideas from.

 

Overall. I'm saying that @vampir you fucking did a great thing. Your ideas are amazing, lul. For some people it seems impossible to re-create (but just wait for my share with all your project features - marker system, new bypasses system, queue system, tutorial system and interface new functions - gk with map and players around areas, any colors admin desires in messages chats, custom events bars and etc.) - and yes, they are all based also on interlude sources (except l2off ai scraps) - so i have h5/c6.

 

Synerge was never good developer(idk how you hired him, i guess mouse relation) he always decompiled your work and made it working for Sorin(although  he worked with you  he always takes your compiled work and decompiles for sorin).

No features are unique. I have your sources (might be a bit outdated, but i always add all your features, so I will have around the same as you will start now, except gve - as it is shit and i don't event want to put hands on it as I hate GvE concept.). Same with Sorin h5 sources - i have them. 

 

So wtf is this long post? Vampir is always working fucking as hard as he can - no, Elexir and interlude sources were not only vampir project - they are all based on Stalone, all donations leads to Stalone to url which Vampir coded (***l2pay.eu****  and payment accounts leads to stalone email vag***@hotmail.com) - yes, i know everything about tales 'clean' donations.

 

But vampir now only cares about interlude, so tales will start +/- on the same features).

About Brazon, idk what Stalone thinks as he 'invested in cryptos', drives ferrari and now makes songs, but one thing clear - all Alex team will scam you. +/- Brazon will fuck you in some meaning and just remember this post. You(Stalone) - always invest huge money amount and fail - (white loot box? - might have think'd something alternative as it failed redmoon - online went from 7**  to 1** in two days, which wouldn't have appeared if you though about better donation system). Wtf? Why now to have Brazon? Mouse will pay extra to get everything from you and Brazon will give everything he can to him from you.

I would just recommend, stick to your golden boys: Vampir(your fucking one and only developer), Strain(responsible for your all webs), your Brother(Paris???) and those others (one which makes trailers for you (I guess a.k.a Golden in forums lol) and others who does some of the jobs). Stay away with correlation with Alex team (wtf are you thinking about taking brazon?? dude if you have money, take anyone from l2 community and pay them atleast 3eu per day - they will be fucking glad to work for your and won't give any info for Alex).

So to be clear - Saga fuck off - your all base is on Tales sources, Sorin team - lets wait what you can scrap off and find ways how to fuck Vercetti(and continue 2020 your projects with new features and same concept - wipe/launch new project/launch-......), and for me - I will wait for live project to finish all vampir features, lol.

For other people - it will be the same, as i mostly talk from dev side - you will all leave projects within 1month, despite what you talking here (best project i ever played - bla bla bla) - some decisions from this team will cause destruction.


We all know tyga won't be involved at it's money waste(If i would need to pay 10k to Tyga - i would invest 10k euros in popular russians streamers and take all donations(because russians gathers huge amount of viewers, so it would be 10000% better to gather players from l2 community than through 'rapper Tyga' which would bring~100 players to connect and 0 donations as they don't know the game and they are not interested to donate - anyone with a bit better mind would know this) through QIWI/Moneybookers from russians players.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Pleyne

[BabayG]

On 12/28/2019 at 1:02 AM, iOllie said:

Also this not depends on server owners but also the community. Trust me there is a lot of good server owners out there who really try to make stuff works and want a fair server but the community itself is shit. I worked as gm and cm alot of times and people are like 24/7 pming you and saying give me free premium and i join ur server . Give me 300 Donation Coins for each cp and i bring clan with 6+ Cp this is how brazon/sorin/mouse teached this community for the past 3-4 years and this will not change now.

Well if admins keep feeding these spoiled players it won't stop, but pretty much it's possible to undone this. 

[iOllie]

  

16 hours ago, AchYlek said:

so? as i know u make adverting for l2saga maybe u are gm too, and saga is corrupted same lvl like sorin/mouse 

 

its can be happened, lets see ... but we know that tyga is not famous streamer, only rapper so idk how much he will get viewers 

First of all if i was a gm i was going to advertise myself saga on this forum , This have nothing to do related with my advertising services , So don't give fake infos like "L2SAGA IS FLAMING L2TALES".
I speak as a player and i speak on the facts. L2Tales was good in 2010 when this community was bigger and better. Now the H5 Community in EU is dead and if Stalone goes with Brazon it will kill it more. Simple as that.

 

11 hours ago, Pleyne said:

Saga GMs/admin cant never ever talk about tales projects. Why? Kostas a.k.a saga admin bought files of l2tales which I was using back in the days and anyone could buy them from guy named Ady.( The guy who got files from mouse when he was in l2tales team). Dude, you started your project on vampir files, asking me if they are legit to buy from Ady. Wtf??? You should never cut feeding hand as your project is based on it. If anyone reading this thinking wtf are you talking about - search l2tales files for sell(saga started from them and grew). Same for Mythras source for here (it's

based on same shared source as l2saga). - you can all download files and start same as Saga started. Later on they bought same donation system as in tales(based on L2CCCP) and tried to have 1:1 features as tales(again, i can give nickname of kostas in mxc and you will find his post of buying 1:1 donate panel from tales).

Why i'm defending tales? Vampir gave fucking huge inovation for h5 or any lineage project(Saga and Alex(mouse)/sorin projects are always trying to get those features). Tales featutres are used by russian projects as well (i'm talking about open-team a.k.a. top russian sources behind private ones and pain-team and /

L2scripts trying to copy that and sell as vip sources loooooool). Tales is all about new ideas, which all projects can take ideas from.

@Pleyne first of all no Saga Team is talking to this topic about Tales or any other project. I personally talk as player.
Saga files are much much much much much better than ANY other files i saw in EU. Yeah maybe in 2014 they used same files like any other server who was opening those days. 

None here is talking about IDEAS AND FEATURES OR FILES. 

Check L2Tales forum , is a copy paste of L2Lionna forum , Revolution , Remedy , ToS and waiting for more of those Pay to Play clans. 
All those clans get items or money to play on servers coz i also played and worked with them so i know how the things are.
What am saying is that this should not be like that because it will kill the server. Like always happens. Play 2 weeks get free items and money and quit. Not only tales but any kind of server will die like that.

 

[Pleyne]

50 minutes ago, iOllie said:

  

First of all if i was a gm i was going to advertise myself saga on this forum , This have nothing to do related with my advertising services , So don't give fake infos like "L2SAGA IS FLAMING L2TALES".
I speak as a player and i speak on the facts. L2Tales was good in 2010 when this community was bigger and better. Now the H5 Community in EU is dead and if Stalone goes with Brazon it will kill it more. Simple as that.

 

@Pleyne first of all no Saga Team is talking to this topic about Tales or any other project. I personally talk as player.
Saga files are much much much much much better than ANY other files i saw in EU. Yeah maybe in 2014 they used same files like any other server who was opening those days. 

None here is talking about IDEAS AND FEATURES OR FILES. 

Check L2Tales forum , is a copy paste of L2Lionna forum , Revolution , Remedy , ToS and waiting for more of those Pay to Play clans. 
All those clans get items or money to play on servers coz i also played and worked with them so i know how the things are.
What am saying is that this should not be like that because it will kill the server. Like always happens. Play 2 weeks get free items and money and quit. Not only tales but any kind of server will die like that.

 

 

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None here is talking about IDEAS AND FEATURES OR FILES. 

 

I like how you wrote in CAPS the part about features :D 

I just wanted you to understand, that all features of eu h5 mid were coming from Tales. So at least give credits for Tales for what they created for all Eu/Ru regions.

The main point from my last long post - all features of h5 mid projects have vampir features. Back in 2014  - they were TOP project, everyone wanted same success as them

 

I wont say what i dont know, but you're right on some points. Saga files were updated, they worked at some point with ru devs. I know how Saga started (lol google synonyms, enter tales and you will get saga one as the amswers). 

 

By the way, i wouldn't even consider you flaming Tales (working with projects promo, come to one of the potential client and flame - it would just be money loss for you as i do predictions that they used your services earlier). So while reading your messages I never felt that you're talking from Saga side :)  

 

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Check L2Tales forum , is a copy paste of L2Lionna forum

 

L2Tales web is always based on their ideas. Go to Lionna web, check features - you find custom auctioneer npc with photo from Redmoon web - yet, connect to game and there is no custom auctioneer npc - they just c/p tales features and now as tales starts once per year, you think tales copied.

 

 

But here comes my long post conclusion - everyone tries to make tales in game features copy as well as web. They provide quality, but fucks up in some way. The redmoom project was 1month minimum and would have been growing, but those custom donation boxes screwed economy and everybody left.

 

L2 projects - all about getting money. It's a job. Believe me, there are no projects trying for people. I thought i will create perfect project and make it not about money - impossible, when you get 4-5k profit you start to think how to get it again, not how to make better for players.

 

Btw, no one gives a fuck about those paid cp's - its a stunt to make random players uh wow there are cps/clans and its fun, so they donate to catch up. All projects get revenue from random players, so if those paid clans leave project it shouldnt impact online. And how to do it? Have 2k random people. There will be always action, and no one would feel that one paid cp left and now we have all to leave.

Idk why I mention Saga that much lol. 

 

These are only my 5cents...

Edited December 29, 2019 by Pleyne

[Dragic]

Topic cleaned, flames and spams on private server section are not allowed @adidaskipowah and @AchYlek  next time you will receive a warning point.

[Stalone]

 

[AchYlek]

best serbidor in 8days

[adidaskipowah]

who ready to get raped in ass? beta in 3 days 

[Lin2Dev]

On 2/20/2020 at 7:21 PM, adidaskipowah said:

who ready to get raped in ass? beta in 3 days 

all you gonna rape are phantoms in towns at tales server, lmao.

[AchYlek]

9 hours ago, Lin2Dev said:

all you gonna rape are phantoms in towns at tales server, lmao.

sure :D there coming like 4-5 clans with 7-10 cps

 

biggest comeback ever, nobody want play saga or trash mouse/sorinko mid rates 

[Lin2Dev]

4 hours ago, AchYlek said:

sure :D there coming like 4-5 clans with 7-10 cps

 

biggest comeback ever, nobody want play saga or trash mouse/sorinko mid rates 

4 -5 random clans with 5 online players at peak hours you mean. nobody gonna join stalones corrupt lowbie java servers.

[AchYlek]

200on at betka, more than at grand opening destiny :O

[Modi]

18 hours ago, AchYlek said:

200on at betka, more than at grand opening destiny :O

ahhhh tales,  I still don't understand what pulls people to the most corrupt server in the L2 world

[AchYlek]

4 hours ago, Modi said:

ahhhh tales,  I still don't understand what pulls people to the most corrupt server in the L2 world

every server is corrupted, but tales wont have even donate for att / funda etc 

 

atleast its not mouse server where ppl playing only when get 10k dp per cp 

[e-itemz]

1 hour ago, AchYlek said:

every server is corrupted, but tales wont have even donate for att / funda etc 

 

atleast its not mouse server where ppl playing only when get 10k dp per cp 

Achujek PR specialist of Vercetti :D I heard stanx get paid in items to join tales