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11 people voted and you ask "Most of you want X?" Fk. No future for this game.

Considering nothing fun can be seen beside this project, I'll probably end up trying it as well. Just for lols. I want to see how it works out. So, DRINK MORE COFFEE AND DO MORE SERBER!

Hellbound, freya, epilogue, high five, interlude - don't give a shit. Will be underpopulated anyway. Funny how you measure PvP server with "days to farm" and "maximum enchant". PvP server is for PvP. If you have to grind your gear it's just a server with higher rates. +10 max gear does not have less PvP than +15 or +16. The point: everything you people talk about never constitutes to PvP. Still fiddling with the same mold for 3 years and can't figure out why servers live 3 weeks.

I replied to your post. You should write in this topic. Also, you are a moron. Classless system would be best. If you control how many skills players can get overall, the skills people choose will create roles on their own. But don't make typical backstab skill. Make a jumping skill for example. Or a skill which allows you to multi target. You are going completely outside of original L2 mold. Might as well take that far.

Not exactly promising. But if you are enthusiastic about it - cannot wait to see what you come up with.

Valid proof of concept. Wouldn't play though.

That alone is good. If it were backed up with something. And yes, the trend is to ignore servers where you have no clue of what you are looking at. Lineage Squared isn't the first to do something out of the ordinary. People flock config servers because changing rates and launching a server with keyboard face rolled settings is a convention. It doesn't change anything beyond what most players are used to.

Sent you PM earlier.

Don't be arrogant. I'm not doubting your skills. People don't join cos they have no clue what they are dealing with. See, the fame thing is interesting. But to whoever has no idea how to apply it, it means nothing. Instead of writing specific data in changelogs, write what does the system achieve. Your 3 short paragraphs can be shortened to: Gain fame with diminishing win/lose ratio fueling persistence, with lesser loss upon frequent death (softer penalty for weaker players).

Don't mean to be a jackass, but, isntead of TL;DR tell us specifics. What did you do to SOA for example. Concise bullet points.

So, what idea would qualify for you to make an actual server out of it? You only up to making individual features or willing to go as far as making some stand alone server concepts?

Omaigod korea This is very very sad.

Illegal money? For selling pixels? Or "donations"? I think if you are only concerned with EARNING any money at all, illegal or not, you'll be disappointed because you won't earn enough to worry yourseld, or worry anyone else about it. You can't exactly be caught with illegal money when people willfully transfer them to you. That's like stealing your Christmas present. Either Santa OR your parents want you to have it anyway...

Making changes to client is against EULA. PLAYING on an emulated server is against EULA. Running an emulator - tough to decide. NCSoft has no ownership over the java source in any way. Considering the source can be adapted to ANY (or most) games it can't be considered part of the product either. It's just software anyone can use and as far as "technicality" is concerned - not connected to L2. It's like if you use an app to adapt desktop GPU drivers for laptops cos big companies like HP decided to not have support from ATi/NVidia for laptops. They can't do anything to you for using an APP. Same way no one can do anything if you use a torrent client. Pirating and using a torrent client are 2 different things. However - L2Extreme was closed cos it hindered NCSofts business I believe. I think there was a lawsuit. I don't think they guy got jailed. Prolly just took away all his database/source code. That's enough to take a large server down. But that's an extreme case. It had loads of people, made loads of revenue, and in turn took player away from retail servers. I don't know the law. But nobody is gonna budge you for your 50-200 player server. Now, the host could do something. InfiniteL2's kain database and source was confiscated by the host once they found out that an L2 server was hosted on their machines.

Sure, go "develop" in C++ braniac. You'll get as far as changing stats on skills and fail.

Wiping just to add C/B/A. I wonder if he fixed that Meditation bug from like 1.5 years ago where it would put out of combat and allow to spam MP. Server is rock paper scissors btw. At the start everyone plays mages and at the end SRs rule server. They call it balanced and no one will do anything about it. Who ever goes there will leave in 2 weeks. It will be fun until then.

A game doesn't have to look good to be called new or popular. The idea is dry. L2 = Pizza fetch quests + /attack mobs The only thing I ever like about this game was PvP and how everything tied up into it. Everyone liked it except some weirdos that liked to stare at pixels looping the same animation for the 500th time. PvP didn't just happen - the world, the game was persistent. It no longer is. And because only a minority will PvP for the sake of PvPing this game is dead. No persistence, no natural PvP = no action = everything is meaningless.

And I repeat - 300+50-300 > 300? It isn't. Its not 350. Its 50. The tables x-axis is difference between total attack attribute and total defense of a target. The bonus stops at 300 difference. 300 weapon and 50 skill doesn't make it a 350 difference.

You trolling? Yeah. The difference between 0 and 50 is 0 then? Check your table. Every point before 50 has a bonus. TLDR (because you are talking about the same thing I am and not realizing) going Earth on a dwarf does make a difference for Earthquake as stated as long as you weapon attribute is = or > of enemy defense attribute *in fact you can be up to 49 points less and you will get a bonus*

300 attack - 300 defense + 50 from skill > 300? Does that help you understand?

Yes. Attribute from weapon and skill is additive - easier to break defense. Having 300 holy on a dwarf doesn't do shit against 300 def. Having 300 earth +50 something from earthquake is gonna do better against 300 def. But that's just words. Cos most people have way more than 300 def and thus attributes are pretty useless unless you can decrease the enemies defense. Which means mostly mages, some summoners, maybe tanks. Attributes hold no relevance for majority of classes.

<People complaining anything beyond interlude is star wars <Check advert sub forum <See loads of sh1tty lolterludes with 20 players <Roflhard It's outdated. Played from C4. Could not give a fudge about it now. What people cared for was not the chronicle - the game was popular, it had many players, there was a feeling of persistence. The world was open to everyone and there were no rules. People weren't moaning wh0res who would drop CW for an epic boss. People would fight over a spot in a farm zone. That was the game. But standards and expectations change. There is no persistence, open world is dead cos PvP servers with their lousy 50 players have Oly porn, raiding boss is 2-3 hours of ALT+shift/windowed mode and stream some online film. The game has to move forward and servers need to become more modern. There isn't enough arguments to support this claim but there are enough patterns that people choose to ignore - the game is old. Yes people want stuff for free, with less farm, etc. Then there are 100 people one these forums who want 1x and month grind. Go to Russian servers and enjoy your no life there. This game is just like music. We used to listen to rock, trance, techno. Now dubstep. It's flavor. Some like it - others don't. But the reality is that the majority don't like old l2. The ones that do are suspended in delusional dream.

Hate that people have no clue why changes were made... H5 oly stadiums are a counter measure to rush skills... A majority of added skills offer richer skill flow, skill rotation and generally better tactics. The problem with any chronicle is clueless people calling it star wars. Attributes sucked since forever. There were either: 1. no way to counter them (GF-epilogue?) 2. the counter was strong to the point where it made attributes useless(Hi5)

For every person remaining in this game from all servers a single, independent idea of "balance" exists. You think you can't do it alone? You wouldn't be able to do it with 2, 3, 10,20 people. Do it yourself - it will be A LOT better in the long run. When server is live just consider feedback. Or open a beta with 24/7 TVT with small map +instant start. Or better yet open server at a particular time to gather as many people as possible. Why? Cos you already do things a lot differently than most other people, so might as well take it further.

L2jserver and in general all open source gameservers made it very easy to set up and make a playable server. This resulted in loads of servers which are one like the other because it is simple to the point where you change config and blam = server "done". From what I understand you wish to make a website similar to this concept. Easy set up - easy run. I'm just thinking it will drop the value of actual good website and their designs. Not saying it's your fault or anything. But the application may not be used as you might think it would be used.