Discussion l2Gold copy

[Nightw0lf]

10 hours ago, TheDarknessFear said:

Owner of gold.in

he was my customer many years ago, i setup his acp and some statistics on his website, plus some security it is big difference than "friend"

 

10 hours ago, TheDarknessFear said:

I respect that but why to promote such "hate" for java? lmao

its more dissapointment than hate, take example acis, how many years still development.

PS: you know i was selling websites and i still sell donate panels for l2 servers right?

[TheDarknessFear]

On 9/19/2025 at 7:47 AM, Nightw0lf said:

he was my customer many years ago, i setup his acp and some statistics on his website, plus some security it is big difference than "friend"

Well, totally get that.

 

 

On 9/19/2025 at 7:47 AM, Nightw0lf said:

its more dissapointment than hate, take example acis, how many years still development.

For acis I believe that they're a bunch of guys that's doing it on their free time. It's proven, over the years, that they're taking their sweet time about it. Meanwhile, is anyone else trying approaching L2OFF, that close, that isn't closed source?

Overall, I don't get the hatred that you've shown over the topic, it sure is bitter.
Also, to stay in topic, L2Gold doesn't need 100% OFF implementations in over to run properly, so Java will do just fine with a bit of tuning.

 

 

On 9/19/2025 at 7:47 AM, Nightw0lf said:

PS: you know i was selling websites and i still sell donate panels for l2 servers right?

Is that a proposition of some kind? I mean, good for you, mate! I hope you're doing good in business.
PS: Spreading such negativity over java projects is not helpful for sales, by the way.

On 9/18/2025 at 10:56 PM, Trance said:

While I respect every other admin who launches a server, including L2Gold, I can proudly say that we’ve built a community where each season brings significant changes and numerous updates. We had anywhere from a few hundred players to nearly one thousand unique players (season 2).

 

The server has already been rebuilt three times on different client protocols, each time introducing something fresh to the table. L2Gold Essence against most other servers; you’ll notice the difference immediately: no lag, no odd movement bugs, the best geodata (which we’ve continually improved), high FPS during mass PvP, and overall smooth gameplay. Just a single in-game click makes the contrast clear compared to servers that still feel stuck in 2007 in terms of innovation. There were times when things went very wrong due to major code reworks, refactors, and the lack of proper testing, but everything was eventually resolved.

 

Not only that, but we’ve also attracted CPs and clans that had never played L2Gold before. That’s one of the main reasons why we reached a higher player count than any gold-style server when compared to the original one back in the days.

100~ videos playlist:
 

 

As you said, not everything was as good as they're now. The positive thing is that you have the know-how on fixing stuff, and that I can say with confidence.

Lots of gray area in terms of popularity and how it happened-happening, but the client upgrades alone, was innovative enough.

Keep up the good work, but let the comparison for the community.

Also, to use your own words, I too mean no disrespect. 

[Nightw0lf]

9 hours ago, TheDarknessFear said:

so Java will do just fine with a bit of tuning.

from my experience this is false starting with a simple click on the map with a new character it feels different, anyone who knows this can tell more, in general i dont show hate for java, i just state the facts.

 

i could show hate for python in relation with java quests etc that were crashing yeah that would be hate because i think its totally bullshit combination

 

the part where i am selling was to make sure that you understand about the customer relationship i had.

[Trance]

7 hours ago, Nightw0lf said:

from my experience this is false starting with a simple click on the map with a new character it feels different, anyone who knows this can tell more, in general i dont show hate for java, i just state the facts.

 

i could show hate for python in relation with java quests etc that were crashing yeah that would be hate because i think its totally bullshit combination

 

the part where i am selling was to make sure that you understand about the customer relationship i had.

 

Dunno what to say, I did play on some l2off recently and they felt worse than some java.

[911reg]

1 hour ago, Trance said:

 

Dunno what to say, I did play on some l2off recently and they felt worse than some java.

Agreed. In many servers, you log in, and with a single click you can feel the clunk. 

[Nightw0lf]

13 hours ago, Trance said:

 

Dunno what to say, I did play on some l2off recently and they felt worse than some java.

what 911reg said, that difference cant be compared its more smooth and feels correct, now later on game if some weird customs make that l2off server bad is another matter, the basics for me is what win on comparison

[TheDarknessFear]

I overall think that certain individuals' opinion is stuck on 2015 that Java files was actual piece of crap in so many perspectives.

L2OFF dynasty will certainly fall at some point.

2 hours ago, Nightw0lf said:

now later on game if some weird customs make that l2off server bad is another matter

That's almost what I meant when I said "With a bit of tuning". Of course, you can manipulate java to do whatever you want. The key here is that a Java is actually an emulator. If you calibrate the emulator correctly, you can achieve wonders.

15 hours ago, Trance said:

Dunno what to say, I did play on some l2off recently and they felt worse than some java.

I bet you wouldn't say that 10 years ago. Because Java has come a long way since then. Ain't it?

[SkyLord]

22 hours ago, Trance said:

 

Dunno what to say, I did play on some l2off recently and they felt worse than some java.

Most players play on l2j, that’s why.

But the difference is huge  .. Every admin or dev knows it’s true

I dont prefer l2j, whether it’s x1 or any other type of server.