Subs on DN ? The Best is ?

[naisher]

Ol/ES is the most powerful mutant ever  ;D with full buffs his enemy is cleaning the ground till he can say  :o

[cedrico]

LOL NABS YOU SAY ONLY NOOBISH SUBS man listen at me on DN will make c6 SO DONT LISTEN to them on dn when will amke c6 mutant = delete and horn gived back so make Pala/Necromancer....the best m def heal veganance man its cool make this ;) By Im sps/ee and im booooooooooooored T_T

 

thanks to explain something when u say such things, specially when this is not consistant and untrue :)

you say shits --> necro will be nerfed a lot and all classes will have in IL an increase of resistance to dark attack... in IL necro will just be the debuff/crowd control class that it has been in C1/C2

 

thus with your SPS/EE you will beat pal/necro

 

 

btw OL/ES is very strong

BUT : on DN drain is becoming a dark attack... thus low damage on class having dark resistance skills or buffs (as EE)

 

i made several trials:

- in 1vs1 SPS/EE > OL/ES with self buff in arena : due to high critical rate, magic dark resistance and speeed skills

- in mass pvp full buff : OL/ES > SPS/EE (due to more HP and TP), but if u kill the uni first...

 

 

 

[canis]

btw OL/ES is very strong

BUT :

- distance to strike is 600 for OL/ES... as other mage have 900 (and archers too)

- moreover on DN drain is becoming a dark attack... thus low damage on class having dark resistance skills or buffs (as EE)

 

i made several trials:

- in 1vs1 SPS/EE >> OL/ES with self buff or full buff (cancel+vortex+block WW then u run and you take a distance superior to 600 and kite and kill ^^) mase several times in arena; just an orcmeat ^^

- in mass pvp full buff : OL/ES > SPS/EE (due to more HP and TP), but if u kill the uni first...

 

i can jsut say LOL for what u write.

OL/ES have 900 range as every other mage, on self buff vs sps/ee chances are 50/50, and on same buff probably

ol/es>sps/ee .

[naisher]

thanks to explain something when u say such things, specially when this is not consistant and untrue :)

you say shits --> necro will be nerfed a lot and all classes will have in IL an increase of resistance to dark attack... in IL necro will just be the debuff/crowd control class that it has been in C1/C2

 

thus with your SPS/EE you will beat pal/necro

 

 

btw OL/ES is very strong

BUT :

- distance to strike is 600 for OL/ES... as other mage have 900 (and archers too)

- moreover on DN drain is becoming a dark attack... thus low damage on class having dark resistance skills or buffs (as EE)

 

i made several trials:

- in 1vs1 SPS/EE >> OL/ES with self buff or full buff (cancel+vortex+block WW then u run and you take a distance superior to 600 and kite and kill ^^) mase several times in arena; just an orcmeat ^^

- in mass pvp full buff : OL/ES > SPS/EE (due to more HP and TP), but if u kill the uni first...

 

 

 

i dont think u can kill Ol/Es so easy with a suck like SpS/Ee because Ol/es>Sps/Ee and i agree with canis that most of that u wrote isn't true :P

[cedrico]

yeah it was a mistake for me and a too quick response. srry for confusion with an other class (i assume and amended my last post)

 

btw i dont say that SPS/EE can kill easily OL/ES, but in arena self buff with nearly same items, i win against OL/ES each time, due to high cast speed, debuff, high speed of sleep skills, big heal

 

interesting to discuss ...

first i use cancel + spam aura bolt for interrupting more dangerous skills of OL (silence, suspension...)

then i spam sleep (chance is low but with high cast speed it lands^^)

then recuperation of my CP and HP if necessary + bad buffing (and EE has a lot of bad buff for a mage ^^) and kill unicorn in 3 shots

then surrender +  vortex + splaash ...

= dead

 

 

[naisher]

yer its true with self-buff OL/Es might lose agains Sps/ee but when u meet full-buffed Ol/Es somewhere...even u are Sps/Ee u die very fast (Es=the fastest casting that is possible, and if u use drains so fast..no enemy ;D ;D ;D)

[canis]

@cedrico  when u fight on arena selfbuffed OL/ES should have staff with mental shield (sleep doesnt land then;) )

ol/es should summon seraphim to get hiss buff, and then unsummon it and get some dmg dealing summon. ol should spam drain all the time, while summon attacks u also, thats only way to win for him ;). If he is lucky he can kill u before u get to range 600(to cast cancel).

[cuppacoffee]

well... who cares about mutants... IL coming hopefully :P

[canis]

IL coming soon ... which means about 2 months as Arena is full of bugs ;)

 

however i wish it would be as soon as possible, cant wait for new subclass system ;) , augments etc ... xD

[cedrico]

@cedrico  when u fight on arena selfbuffed OL/ES should have staff with mental shield (sleep doesnt land then;) )

ol/es should summon seraphim to get hiss buff, and then unsummon it and get some dmg dealing summon. ol should spam drain all the time, while summon attacks u also, thats only way to win for him ;). If he is lucky he can kill u before u get to range 600(to cast cancel).

 

maybe...

but in practice they preffer to take with them the seraphim uni which provide the renewal buff in case of cancel or long fight... moreover SPS/EE had resistance to water buff then use of merrow uni is not so interesting ^^

furthermore mental shield as SA from staff is not high level and do not permit to have a good resistance to sleep/silence.

 

in arena going to 600 range is very easy

 

 

[grimnosh]

whatever u gonna say, imho subs on DN sucks a lot >.<

[canis]

in arena going to 600 range is very easy

 

well but before u get to range 600 OL/ES should use drain 2-3 times (which means u are out of cp and about 2/3hp left).

 

but in practice they preffer to take with them the seraphim uni which provide the renewal buff in case of cancel or long fight...

 

ol/es never have long fight ... if he wont kill enemy in less than 1min he is out of mana = dead ;p

 

[codeine]

ty/des for exp and pvp, but very boring. personally like sh/sk and bd/se. i make th/wl now to make nice Varka trains  8)

[Sleaver]

Destro/Tyrant - frenzy.. tyrant immortal .. atack with raging force ^^

 

Warlock/Gladiator - glad + transfer pain ... looks nice

[Darky]

Pal/DE and now on IL choose archer cuz mages dont have life :] or support for archers like bp/wc ;]