Guide Untraceable adena/item trading

[morrison]

Any one know the best way to make a trade between a potential banneable account and the target account untraceable by the admins in their logs?

 

I assume throwing items to the ground and picking them up is still traceable? Private store too, right?

 

Thank you!

[sc0rch3r]

i guess it all sums up of how much thorough the GM wants to be. I've never seen one of these databases, but i've seen other databases and worked with them . if it would have been me...i would do this "operation" somewhere where the database gets really crowded and w/o direct contact (drop the sh1t down in Giran - if there is where the heat is)  

[morrison]

1 hour ago, sc0rch3r said:

i guess it all sums up of how much thorough the GM wants to be. I've never seen one of these databases, but i've seen other databases and worked with them . if it would have been me...i would do this "operation" somewhere where the database gets really crowded and w/o direct contact (drop the sh1t down in Giran - if there is where the heat is)  

 

But I'm guessing that with simple filters the admins could remove most of the noise even in Giran, or maybe I didnt fully understand.

[TehBot12]

It depends. If the server is crowded then, the trades are more hard to trace. Just create 20-40-60 accounts and pass the items with trade from char to char all time. At the end the traces will cease to exist. If an Administrator takes his time to investigate, then the trades will be lost from the logs.

[Guarder]

It will get you afterall like it happened to me .... traded the bannable items then another 34231523 useless items untill it filled the inventory and wh....

 

AND STILL.... they banned me and deleted only the EXACT items that needed to be deleted....

 

So....the logs are messy

 

Every character/item/class/skill/zone/trade has an unique ID

Edited April 20, 2021 by KIDutz

[TehBot12]

You got unlucky there buddy

[sc0rch3r]

that's why i suggested dropping the adena on the floor and pick it up. still traceable but my guess it is harder

[Cherish]

Guys, every item that is being generated in DB has unique ID bound only to this specific item.
Admins don't even bother tracing transactions. They can find it among all other item data.
Regardless, depending on what filters admin apply, item transactions will be very visible in logs.

If admin wants to find it and he has the skills to do it, he will.

[sc0rch3r]

yea...srry...don;t know why i got stuck with the idea of adena...that was not the case 

[donlesni]

Buying low value items out from trade shop works best for adena.

[morrison]

2 hours ago, Cherish said:

Guys, every item that is being generated in DB has unique ID bound only to this specific item.
Admins don't even bother tracing transactions. They can find it among all other item data.
Regardless, depending on what filters admin apply, item transactions will be very visible in logs.

If admin wants to find it and he has the skills to do it, he will.

What about adena? What's the ID in adena? What's the best way to trade it?

[Cherish]

44 minutes ago, morrison said:

What about adena? What's the ID in adena? What's the best way to trade it?

Stackable items is not traceable as equipment, there admin need to find by logs.
but as said logs can be easily filtered and transactions become more visible.

It all comes down to admin if he wants or know how to find you.

[INFO ] 2021-01-08 22:43:20 item: CHANGED Adena(57)[268525608] amount 1250693297 by Fastkill [268519867], referenced by MecanOtGorata [268504804].

[INFO ] 2020-12-31 04:40:35 item: SET_OWNER Earring of Zaken(6659)[268488091] +3 by Fastkill [268519867], referenced by Bingo [268522796].
[INFO ] 2020-12-31 04:40:35 item: SET_OWNER Earring of Zaken(6659)[268557436] +10 by Bingo [268522796], referenced by Fastkill [268519867].
[INFO ] 2020-12-31 04:45:51 item: SET_OWNER Pirate Hat(8922)[268489882] by Bingo [268522796], referenced by MecanOtGorata [268504804].

here is L2J example

[donlesni]

I've heard admins of some paranoid servers like l2reborn and l2etina ( rip ) used some scripts to trace exchange / freighting of adena so it turns out that the trade shop is being the safest so far

[morrison]

2 hours ago, Cherish said:

[INFO ] 2021-01-08 22:43:20 item: CHANGED Adena(57)[268525608] amount 1250693297 by Fastkill [268519867], referenced by MecanOtGorata [268504804].

 

So this would mean that Fastkill (ID=268519867) dropped 1250693297 of adena (ID)268525608) on the floor and MecanOtGorata (ID=268504804) picked it up?

[Cherish]

On 4/20/2021 at 4:31 PM, morrison said:

 

So this would mean that Fastkill (ID=268519867) dropped 1250693297 of adena (ID)268525608) on the floor and MecanOtGorata (ID=268504804) picked it up?

the other way around.

Edited April 21, 2021 by Cherish