Discussion aCis vs Lucera

[Nightw0lf]

12 hours ago, Kara said:

Also the customs they add are so complicated that nobody is going to use them.

last time i've checked l2j had so many implementations of somany languages and external dependencies i wanted to give up using it, back in time it was just the java the csv/xml/db files a database pool jar and you knew what you had to deal with, now you can see 50 files to add a buffer

https://bitbucket.org/l2jserver/l2j-server-datapack/commits/ce038fd2d0bbe428c41d2ca370df5bdeb623ae7f#Lsrc/main/resources/data/service/buffer/json/global.jsonT23

is like a competition of who will make the most files and most technologies combined out of one code

[TehBot12]

On 4/5/2021 at 7:21 PM, Kara said:

Why do we really continue this conversation? Are you sane people? We really claim that players and admins are more important than a developer? @TehBot12 You realize if developer quit their job all servers will die within few hours? 

 

Players are dumb bots and the reasons a server degrade over time. Each one crying like a baby and he demands server changes, admin then apply those changes and other players get disappointed. In the end you adjust your whole server to match players taste and nobody is happy.

 

Players should -beep- and play or quit the gaming forever. Some people are meant to play some other are meant to lose some are meant to do something else other than gaming. Dying in Call of duty 10 times in row doesn't make Call of Duty a bad game, it's mean you're useless or amateur and no playing for many years as i heard as an excuse from some of my clients is stupid. Time might helps but it doesn't mean playing Lineage 2 for 10 years make you a decent person to have opinion over game changes. 

 

So now that we threw players as left over chicken wings to the garbage bin, let's discuss about administrators.

Majority of them are wannabe people who reached the maximum level of lineage 2 (probably in some x 1000 server with a 100% safe enchant rate aka Pride like servers) and they decided to rule community with their experienced perspective. Their opinion unshakable and of course on top of everyone's else.

Their experience after watching OUR tutorial and OUR work while we perform in their computer via some remote software reaches up to to XML & HTML edit. You will hear many of them claiming that they even know how to read or edit a code even tho they don't know that an armor texture is not a DEVELOPER'S JOB!

 

No "Administrators" of Lineage 2 community, you can't code, you can't read a code and you can't do anything without us. Because you read a function "isHero()" and understand it because Java is human friendly language doesn't make you a person who understand programming. We are not fools sitting for 5-10 years to own multiple languages to end up arguing with a guy who get excited because he copy paste values in XML.

Let's no mix up our job and not mistaken your position here. You do nothing special other than advertise project, take decisions and edit few configurations. In the end of the day you gonna cry to your developer for fixing up bugs or change systems.

 

 

 

I've seen "admins" ruining developer's work. I've seen Administrators rulling in the business.

After all, If no Admins, then no Devs. Except if a Developer is also an Administrator. In that case delete everything I said. Administrators and Developers should work as an entity. I'm observing an attitude here. Not only from you, but in a lot of Developers I've come across those years. Players report to Admins, then Admins think about what to do and they report to Developers. And @Kara if no servers, then no job for you. Remember that. Developers not the top of the iceberg stop acting like it. We all have the same motivation that keeps us working. My job is equally important as yours. If my server has lots of people, then it has lots of donations. Lots of donations = More codes from you.
 

And that's how you all have 2k+ posts in this forum. Ok, I get it now.

[Kara]

2 hours ago, TehBot12 said:

I've seen "admins" ruining developer's work. I've seen Administrators rulling in the business.

After all, If no Admins, then no Devs. Except if a Developer is also an Administrator. In that case delete everything I said. Administrators and Developers should work as an entity. I'm observing an attitude here. Not only from you, but in a lot of Developers I've come across those years. Players report to Admins, then Admins think about what to do and they report to Developers. And @Kara if no servers, then no job for you. Remember that. Developers not the top of the iceberg stop acting like it. We all have the same motivation that keeps us working. My job is equally important as yours. If my server has lots of people, then it has lots of donations. Lots of donations = More codes from you.
 

And that's how you all have 2k+ posts in this forum. Ok, I get it now.

Dont go for the payment thing cause we could simply ask 500e for a code and admins would give them. In any freelance site the salary for a developer is high as fuck. Not these 10 euro for a code, 5 euro for small fix etc. Simply poor gipsies devs ruined and spoiled audience and now admins ask a job for less money. So avoid this conv cause you might live a day that you need to pay with your liver for a simple code if the remaining devs appreciate their knowledge and stop giving away things for 5 euro.

 

About how we get our post, first why you care yow many post each one has?

Show some respect to the remaining in this forum such as tryskell, those who answer in help sections etc. Cause without us you wouldnt have l2 nor a forum to write now. 

[L2RAPTOR]

On 4/6/2021 at 11:22 PM, Nightw0lf said:

last time i've checked l2j had so many implementations of so many languages and external dependencies i wanted to give up using it, back in time it was just the java the csv/xml/db files a database pool jar and you knew what you had to deal with, now you can see 50 files to add a buffer

https://bitbucket.org/l2jserver/l2j-server-datapack/commits/ce038fd2d0bbe428c41d2ca370df5bdeb623ae7f#Lsrc/main/resources/data/service/buffer/json/global.jsonT23

is like a competition of who will make the most files and most technologies combined out of one code

 

On 4/7/2021 at 10:30 AM, Kara said:

Dont go for the payment thing cause we could simply ask 500e for a code and admins would give them. In any freelance site the salary for a developer is high as fuck. Not these 10 euro for a code, 5 euro for small fix etc. Simply poor gipsies devs ruined and spoiled audience and now admins ask a job for less money. So avoid this conv cause you might live a day that you need to pay with your liver for a simple code if the remaining devs appreciate their knowledge and stop giving away things for 5 euro.

 

About how we get our post, first why you care yow many post each one has?

Show some respect to the remaining in this forum such as tryskell, those who answer in help sections etc. Cause without us you wouldnt have l2 nor a forum to write now. 

It seems Kara's  and Nightw0lf's English is not the best so I hope you understand.. Come off your pedestals. You are no better than Admins or anyone else. You want to attack the servers we manage ..but what servers do you manage? You can talk shit but can't take it. Put your big girl panties on bitches...LMAO at you...

No Admins = No Devs.. No Devs = No Admins....you are no better...

Edited April 16, 2021 by L2RAPTOR

[Kara]

11 minutes ago, L2RAPTOR said:

 

It seems Kara's  and Nightw0lf's English is not the best so I hope you understand.. Come off your pedestals. You are no better than Adnins or anyone else. You want to attack the servers we manage ..but what servers do you manage? You can talk shit but can't take it. Put your big girl panties on bitches...

No Admins = No Devs.. No Devs = No Admins....you are no better...

 

Stop writing you're out of this topic nobody give a damn about you anymore.

Your server failed hard not a single online player on a server it's the ultimate failure. Even pride like servers receive 100-120 people online and it's the same recycled pack. 

 

Successful server with 7.000 forum members as website claim

yet 1 real online on discord:

 

 

Laugh of the year. And eave English aside. Don't make me go though your last comments or topics and point out your grammar or your syntax.

 

Also please do not quote me again, it's offensive that a guy who beg for help dare to trash talk to the people who helped him. As long as i provide free help to your request topics keep your mouth shut like me or not. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Kara

[L2RAPTOR]

To stay on topic, I also I want to say about ACIS vs LUCERA...

ACIS is good because of updated files and support of Tryskell.

Lucera is good if you have the skill level of Celestine

L2jOrion is best for me because of the ease to edit, updated files, almost no bugs, support and relationship.

5 minutes ago, Kara said:

 

Stop writing you're out of this topic nobody give a damn about you anymore.

Your server failed hard not a single online player on a server it's the ultimate failure. Even pride like servers receive 100-120 people online and it's the same recycled pack. 

 

Successful server with 7.000 forum members as website claim

yet 1 real online on discord:

 

 

Laugh of the year. And eave English aside. Don't make me go though your last comments or topics and point out your grammar or your syntax.

 

Also please do not quote me again, it's offensive that a guy who beg for help dare to trash talk to the people who helped him. As long as i provide free help to your request topics keep your mouth shut like me or not. 

Continue to attack Admins... and continue with your negative posts... and troll... everything I said you were is true sweetheart... everybody knows you!..

[Dragic]

We have left you free to have this discussion this time around but some of you often get off topic all the time, so please do not get off topic anymore.

 

Lucera is based in H5 PTS files i have work on it like 3,5 years + lucera needs much progress for build your server with it but is worth it i like this base and lucera movement.

 

aCis is good base for write java if you are not actually educated developer etc but still need progress also.

 

Thats my opinion since lucera is based on h5 you can't compare it because it is something different.

 

Regards.

Edited April 7, 2021 by Dragic

[Nightw0lf]

14 hours ago, Kara said:

Dont go for the payment thing cause we could simply ask 500e for a code and admins would give them. In any freelance site the salary for a developer is high as fuck. Not these 10 euro for a code, 5 euro for small fix etc. Simply poor gipsies devs ruined and spoiled audience and now admins ask a job for less money. So avoid this conv cause you might live a day that you need to pay with your liver for a simple code if the remaining devs appreciate their knowledge and stop giving away things for 5 euro.

 

About how we get our post, first why you care yow many post each one has?

Show some respect to the remaining in this forum such as tryskell, those who answer in help sections etc. Cause without us you wouldnt have l2 nor a forum to write now. 

i need your event system i have 5 euro now and after donations you get percent

9 hours ago, L2RAPTOR said:

Nightw0lf's English is not the best

  

9 hours ago, L2RAPTOR said:

You are no better than Adnins or anyone else

9 hours ago, Kara said:

Successful server with 7.000

L2Raptor broke this record first 24hours.

9 hours ago, L2RAPTOR said:

To stay on topic,

9 hours ago, L2RAPTOR said:

L2jOrion is best

so, all he could do is personally attack me for my english classic "i cant win"

[L2RAPTOR]

Sorry, I had to miss all these silly replies and not respond. On vacation

So what servers do Nightwolf and Kara own? I don't think they answered.. yet can talk shit to other Admins about their servers as if they can do better..

LF Dev to make emoji with 2 hands giving middle finger so i can use here....

Edited April 15, 2021 by L2RAPTOR

[TehBot12]

On 4/7/2021 at 5:30 PM, Kara said:

Dont go for the payment thing cause we could simply ask 500e for a code and admins would give them. In any freelance site the salary for a developer is high as fuck. Not these 10 euro for a code, 5 euro for small fix etc. Simply poor gipsies devs ruined and spoiled audience and now admins ask a job for less money. So avoid this conv cause you might live a day that you need to pay with your liver for a simple code if the remaining devs appreciate their knowledge and stop giving away things for 5 euro.

 

About how we get our post, first why you care yow many post each one has?

Show some respect to the remaining in this forum such as tryskell, those who answer in help sections etc. Cause without us you wouldnt have l2 nor a forum to write now. 

[offTopic]Increasing your prices won't get you the results you're hoping for. Also, If a Developer is worth 500/code he shouldn't just work for lineage2 emulators. You arrange your prices by the population of a game. I'm not against an "expensive" Developer. I'm against the whole diva attitude.[/offTopic]

aCis will be king of java emulators in a couple years. That's what i'm thinking.

[L2RAPTOR]

On 4/8/2021 at 1:30 AM, Nightw0lf said:

i need your event system i have 5 euro now and after donations you get percent

  

L2Raptor broke this record first 24hours.

so, all he could do is personally attack me for my english classic "i cant win"

I could attack you on your iTopz. but i wont sink to your level.

11 minutes ago, TehBot12 said:

[offTopic]Increasing your prices won't get you the results you're hoping for. Also, If a Developer is worth 500/code he shouldn't just work for lineage2 emulators. You arrange your prices by the population of a game. I'm not against an "expensive" Developer. I'm against the whole diva attitude.[/offTopic]

aCis will be king of java emulators in a couple years. That's what i'm thinking.

aCis will be king of java emulators in a couple years.

This could be true.. but how many will still be interested in L2 Interlude then?

[TehBot12]

6 minutes ago, L2RAPTOR said:

I could attack you on your iTopz. but i wont sink to your level.

aCis will be king of java emulators in a couple years.

This could be true.. but how many will still be interested in L2 Interlude then?

Interlude released 2006. 15 years later, thousands of players are still active. What could happen in a couple years?

[L2RAPTOR]

1 minute ago, TehBot12 said:

Interlude released 2006. 15 years later, thousands of players are still active. What could happen in a couple years?

yes , but measure the % decrease in players from 2006 until now.. and apply to when Acis will be king..

Anyway, I think Acis has great potential .. but in the end,  there is a time limit on Interlude and all L2 chronicles. So many different new games open now. I love L2, but we are a dying species.

[TehBot12]

Just now, L2RAPTOR said:

yes , but measure the % decrease in players from 2006 until now.. and apply to when Acis will be king..

Anyway, I think Acis has great potential .. but in the end,  there is a time limit on Interlude and all L2 chronicles. So many different new games open now. I love L2, but we are a dying species.

That's a problem for the future, in the time being, let's enjoy the game.

[L2RAPTOR]

1 minute ago, TehBot12 said:

That's a problem for the future, in the time being, let's enjoy the game.

Yeah man! Even though I know this.. I am working to open a retail(almost) 4x interlude server. It's not about a business .. it's about a passion.