xxdem Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) Recently I've been reading about lots of trashtalking about acis. I've been using aCis about 5 years, my favorite server L2AEPvP I based it into an ancient aCis rev, 110 I think? I know each line of this project by hand line by line with eyes closed, I've recently ported this ancient 110 rev acis L2AEPvP into the H5 client with MINIMAL effort, (packets, datapack)... Not saying that its flawless but its a great and very clean project with a bad reputation from a shitty community and small devs. Basically this topic is a big fuck you to all the trashers that use this pack with zero knowledge and no contribution, ruining the small community more and more. My 2 cents wannabies Edited July 17, 2018 by xxdem Quote
vampir Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 So how much time totally did you spend on improving the pack? Quote
xxdem Posted July 17, 2018 Author Posted July 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, vampir said: So how much time totally did you spend on improving the pack? Lots, but I cant have an opinion on that because i am fully custom 4 minutes ago, .Elfocrash said: It's a fine project with mediocre code. The best way I can sum it up is: "It's code looks like what a hobbyist would think clean code is." Still a more than fine project (and the only one) to use for interlude. Your sum up belongs to the trash can, everyone has his own opinion about clean code because it's a matter of coding style with the given trade-offs for each case (performance, expandability, readability, development speed, etc) Quote
Elfo Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) a Edited October 1, 2021 by Elfocrash 1 1 Quote
xxdem Posted July 17, 2018 Author Posted July 17, 2018 Absolutely no reason to argue with you. *You are right* Quote
Elfo Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, xxdem said: Absolutely no reason to argue with you. *You are right* I don't want you to tell me I'm right. I'd rather have you tell me with arguments why I'm wrong, but ofc you can't do that. Quote
vampir Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 In most cases clean code is not matter of opinion, you should read https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Code-Handbook-Software-Craftsmanship/dp/0132350882 1 Quote
xxdem Posted July 17, 2018 Author Posted July 17, 2018 The topic "what is lean code" is abstract and completely offtopic Quote
Quark Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 9 hours ago, xxdem said: Recently I've been reading about lots of trashtalking about acis. I've been using aCis about 5 years, my favorite server L2AEPvP I based it into an ancient aCis rev, 110 I think? I know each line of this project by hand line by line with eyes closed, I've recently ported this ancient 110 rev acis L2AEPvP into the H5 client with MINIMAL effort, (packets, datapack)... Not saying that its flawless but its a great and very clean project with a bad reputation from a shitty community and small devs. Basically this topic is a big fuck you to all the trashers that use this pack with zero knowledge and no contribution, ruining the small community more and more. My 2 cents wannabies I have 2 questions: 1. How many players hold your server? How long was online? Rates? 2. How long did you play on the retail? Quote
xxdem Posted July 18, 2018 Author Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Quark said: I have 2 questions: 1. How many players hold your server? How long was online? Rates? 2. How long did you play on the retail? I find these totally irrelevant Quote
Rootware Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 aCis 110 revision not better solution. Use L2J Frozen then. *Obama Not Bad* P.S. I surprises, that there was the person, who praises the project which it was yet totally L2J Server Freya (only cutted yet). aCis, as unique fork, became much later. Quote
vampir Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 10 hours ago, xxdem said: The topic "what is lean code" is abstract and completely offtopic On topic then. Even if you put 5 years to some shared c1 pack then you can make it be great. The thing is currently there arent any good IL pack that could run low/mid server. If you want to work on acis you need to implement all missing things and also make at least some modifications to skills and geoengine or your server will fail very shortly. When it comes to clean code, acis is not much different from russian packs. If you would remove all customs from lucera or fandc then you will notice that those 2 types of packs(eu and ru) are very similar, are both of them are very far away from so called clean code. The difference is that russian packs have all acis missing things implemented and a lot of bugs fixed. Try to open mid rate on clean acis files, then we can talk if this pack is great or not. 1 Quote
SweeTs Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 3 hours ago, vampir said: If you want to work on acis you need to implement all missing things and also make at least some modifications to skills and geoengine or your server will fail very shortly. Missing things - if you need them, otherwise it's not a problem. Skills - what's actually wrong with them? Geoengine - sure, that nasty 'chasing' issue is present, but not a BIG issue. Look at sahar server, he did not fix it yet people didn't report it. Even worse, the same crap happens on l2rpg or whatever the server it was (could twist the name), yet people play it and don't complain. People rarely use brain, so such situation is like a gold fish. You know it does exists, but you never seen her. Quote
Quark Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, SweeTs said: Look at sahar server, Is'nt this "sahar server" custom thing, something like side vs side with closed areas, mobs have no drop and etc...? Or I'm wrong? Quote
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