Discussion Classic Vs Interlude- hi5

[Pamela32]

Hello guys i m wonder why ppl working on 2k18 at c6 and hi5 projects while all of them close at 2 weeks while classics are the future ..

outhere exist only 2 projects that working on classsic ...

 

1 mobius and have normal prices 

2 l2jscripts and u have to pay 7272727726euro to open a server 

 

 

 

I m wonder why people like tryskel why they dont start working on classic while c6 will disappear soon.. ?

 

#peace 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Pamela32

[Kara]

28 minutes ago, Pamela32 said:

Hello guys i m wonder why ppl working on 2k18 at c6 and hi5 projects while all of them close at 2 weeks while classics are the future ..

outhere exist only 2 projects that working on classsic ...

 

1 mobius and have normal prices 

2 l2jscripts and u have to pay 7272727726euro to open a server 

 

 

 

I m wonder why people like tryskel why they dont start working on classic while c6 will disappear soon.. ?

 

#peace 

 

I'll speak from my client's point of view since i'm one of the oldest dev in this forum and i had million of clients in these 6 years + since i started with services. 

The majority and when i say majority i refer to like 90% of them failed using russian packs or mobius pack or l2jscripts.

 

Tryskel also is familiar with IT, he would fail badly if he try develop a newer chronicle + he is slow (mostly because he do it for hobby and for his own pleasure). He can't do more than interlude. 

 

So in the end there is no good project at the moment aside L2J which is also bad if you take for example newer chronicles. Before a emulator is even "close" to finish NCSOFT already will have 3 newer chronicles released. We are in 2018 and we still dont have a successfuly interlude source with good geodata and movement data code. So why bother move to newer chronicle that has more stuff to add?

[Pamela32]

well at least nowdays we dont have kids admins 15yo with  homade servers .. kids now play fortnite & lol ..

 

my opinion is .. about an open source classic / god  project  should exist .. so every1 could commit and share his work... and when some year pass we could have a playable classic .. 

[Kara]

7 minutes ago, Pamela32 said:

well at least nowdays we dont have kids admins 15yo with  homade servers .. kids now play fortnite & lol ..

 

my opinion is .. about an open source classic / god  project  should exist .. so every1 could commit and share his work... and when some year pass we could have a playable classic .. 

We do. There is no professional server right now. Servers are so fail that if i sit 1 day and develop 1 server i'll have more success than them.

[BabayG]

Because you need to invest a lot of money just for development purposes or do it your self and will probably take you an eternity just like Supreme. 

[*real*savormix]

6 hours ago, Pamela32 said:

1 mobius and have normal prices 

2 l2jscripts and u have to pay 7272727726euro to open a server

Mobius is a standard l2j-ish serverpack

l2jscripts is a frontend for PTS server owners willing to sell their (post-transformation) /script/ folder contents (excluding AI which is manually fucked up

6 hours ago, Pamela32 said:

while classics are the future ..

Are you fucking serious? L2 2018 = 20 FPS max with 9900K + RTX2080 + 970 Pro

Keep watching this video until you finally understand what trash L2 is always going to be. The reason why people stay in 2011/2006 is simple: nothing is getting better, ever. Even the latest clients still have the decades old memory leak issue(s) and are still running the 2000-ish UE 2.5.

Why would you spend any time on this game when all official servers are free to play and there are plenty of gameplay differences between the regions (you are free to pick any)?

Especially now that there are services that allow you to play JP/TW/etc. and view everything in English (NPC names, chats, incl. generated ones like teleport lists, item names/augs/effects/SAs, private store descriptions, etc. etc.)

 

The people who get their hands on NCSoft releases have a clear interest here and they are trying so very hard to keep the L2 server 'ownership' scene running, since once L2 dies, so will their revenue.

Yet if you look at the most promising private servers, like GameCoast - it is bot and adena seller infested trash, with no clear reason to exist since official servers are just as bad/good.

Edited December 1, 2018 by *real*savormix

[Pamela32]

21 hours ago, *real*savormix said:

Mobius is a standard l2j-ish serverpack

l2jscripts is a frontend for PTS server owners willing to sell their (post-transformation) /script/ folder contents (excluding AI which is manually fucked up

Are you fucking serious? L2 2018 = 20 FPS max with 9900K + RTX2080 + 970 Pro

Keep watching this video until you finally understand what trash L2 is always going to be. The reason why people stay in 2011/2006 is simple: nothing is getting better, ever. Even the latest clients still have the decades old memory leak issue(s) and are still running the 2000-ish UE 2.5.

Why would you spend any time on this game when all official servers are free to play and there are plenty of gameplay differences between the regions (you are free to pick any)?

Especially now that there are services that allow you to play JP/TW/etc. and view everything in English (NPC names, chats, incl. generated ones like teleport lists, item names/augs/effects/SAs, private store descriptions, etc. etc.)

 

The people who get their hands on NCSoft releases have a clear interest here and they are trying so very hard to keep the L2 server 'ownership' scene running, since once L2 dies, so will their revenue.

Yet if you look at the most promising private servers, like GameCoast - it is bot and adena seller infested trash, with no clear reason to exist since official servers are just as bad/good.

 

 

well that is your opinion ..

 

i dont know about fps .. but i rly like last updates of l2 

 

specially some updates from god client are awesome.. sadly they lost i and they added to many so its changed to star wars ...

 

 classic is awesome up to antharas.. after that they did some custom shit at seven but even with that is beautiful for me

 

Everyday all servers will run a classic server .. take as example Lionna and l2neo 

 

The video that u link me its mobile game .. 

 

Classic is the future.. soon all hi5 servers will run at salvation client 

 

 

Lineage II  is the best game for us

that's why we open private servers..

 

we try to fix servers based in our ideas and how it should be

 

 

[*real*savormix]

The video I gave the link of shows exactly what L2 will never be. Keep watching until you understand L2 will always be a game coming directly from year 2000 (the inception may have been 1999, but who cares since it was released on 2004).

The 'before/after' effect clearly shows how L2 (before) fares against 'literally every other MMO out there'.

 

You're claiming eventually everyone will change to classic. This is false. When L2J was at GE, server owners were at GE, when L2J was at Freya, server owners were at Freya, when L2J advanced (after a certain delay) to HF, server owners and players all moved [from Freya] to GF. This was the fatal blow to L2Jserver (a knife in the back), the reason it never even had a chance to aim for GoD and why it died shortly thereafter.

 

Moreover, ever since Lindvior update 3 (I think) the l2 serverpacks suffered and never really managed to get higher clients working properly (can also be seen today, in Mobius source as well).

The other thing, even if HF servers will transfer to Salvation/Antharas, by that time Korea will be 2 updates past Fafurion/SotE, international build will be 1 update past Fafurion/SotE, so gameplay wise both HF and Antharas servers will look completely out-of-date and hopelessly stuck in the past (kinda like Interlude).

Edited December 2, 2018 by *real*savormix

[adidaskipowah]

still russian h5 low rates  keep huge online look at rpg club and asterios server there is no other server that can compete against them

[*real*savormix]

5 hours ago, adidaskipowah said:

still russian h5 low rates  keep huge online look at rpg club and asterios server there is no other server that can compete against them

Same story as GameCoast, same story as C1 L2Abyss (currently known as HF https://www.fogofwar.ru/ with 10k+ online all the time). Who cares about high online counts, when all of those are either bots or adena selling spammers?

[AchYlek]

1 hour ago, *real*savormix said:

Same story as GameCoast, same story as C1 L2Abyss (currently known as HF https://www.fogofwar.ru/ with 10k+ online all the time). Who cares about high online counts, when all of those are either bots or adena selling spammers?

if i know well, abyss using fake online also 

 

Edited December 3, 2018 by AchYlek

[adidaskipowah]

14 hours ago, *real*savormix said:

Same story as GameCoast, same story as C1 L2Abyss (currently known as HF https://www.fogofwar.ru/ with 10k+ online all the time). Who cares about high online counts, when all of those are either bots or adena selling spammers?

i played in asterios and i can tell that online is not fake you need to fight for any spots on any levels also botting is imposible even if you open adr and dont bot you get banned bcose they detect it and they dont make any discusions about unbanning 

[*real*savormix]

1 hour ago, adidaskipowah said:

i played in asterios and i can tell that online is not fake you need to fight for any spots on any levels also botting is imposible even if you open adr and dont bot you get banned bcose they detect it and they dont make any discusions about unbanning 

NCwest is also able to detect adr on open and was able for years now. However, they don't ban everyone.

 

Also, the 'fight for spot' part is ridiculous. Have you already forgotten scatter/afk5min & co from official servers?

 

I'm not saying in this reboot of asterios only bots are playing, but whatever you presented as counter-evidence is worthless.

[AlmostGood]

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but whatever you presented as counter-evidence is worthless.

evidence? funny, yet to see any in your posts, which i assume are not worthless.

 

you sound like brainwashed guy wearing his tin foil whole day :D

 

 

[*real*savormix]

25 minutes ago, AlmostGood said:

evidence? funny, yet to see any in your posts, which i assume are not worthless.

 

you sound like brainwashed guy wearing his tin foil whole day :D

Evidence of what exactly? Bots? You have been in MxC for at least 7+ years (and that's assuming this is your only/first account here) and you can't really notice obvious bots in every at least little bit popular L2 server?

I'm not even talking NCw, where bots are protected from item drop. Event servers have event bots, standard l2 servers have drop hunting bots, and finally the PvP bots, including the infamous ones that DC your opponents in mass PvP.

 

But then again, don't let the harsh reality penetrate your rose glasses.