Discussion Which Pack Worth Working On

[Intrepid]

I miss coding a lot so for time killings sake and for fun i want to do some stuff not for any server or public project or anything like that, im over these things as i dont even play the game anymore. So my question is which project is atm stable enough for testing purposes so it can be used for development?

The chronicle doesnt matter im interested in everything atm.

[xdem]

for development its acis, for server and stability its l2jserver

[Intrepid]

for development its acis, for server and stability its l2jserver

 

But acis have no constantly updated source code to sync and to be honest i am way too lazy to sync a million lines. :D

 

L2J is messed up altho an older version like gracia final would be okay since i dislike their newer chronicles a lot(mainly because of their interface implementations which is  way too messed up for my liking).

[xdem]

But acis have no constantly updated source code to sync and to be honest i am way too lazy to sync a million lines. :D

 

L2J is messed up altho an older version like gracia final would be okay since i dislike their newer chronicles a lot(mainly because of their interface implementations which is  way too messed up for my liking).

 

 

you dont have to sync acis since their updates are not worthy, you just get that pack because its clean and easy to work on

[Intrepid]

you dont have to sync acis since their updates are not worthy, you just get that pack because its clean and easy to work on

 

Ohh well tbh i wouldnt sync much but i like to run over the changesets to pick up whats usefull, and i would turn the pack upside down in many ways to fix a lot of things they messed up while following l2j, Its still interlude right?

[xdem]

Ohh well tbh i wouldnt sync much but i like to run over the changesets to pick up whats usefull, and i would turn the pack upside down in many ways to fix a lot of things they messed up while following l2j, Its still interlude right?

 

its int but I like creating code and big stuff on int like event engines because with 2-3 simple edits you can adapt all the code on any server platform

[Intrepid]

its int but I like creating code and big stuff on int like event engines because with 2-3 simple edits you can adapt all the code on any server platform

 

Well that depends on how "deep" you go into the pack, i like to change a crapload of stuff like i would instantly add back javolution and use it whenever possible which would alredy make a convertion difficult to newbies.

[xdem]

Well that depends on how "deep" you go into the pack, i like to change a crapload of stuff like i would instantly add back javolution and use it whenever possible which would alredy make a convertion difficult to newbies.

 

 

seems like you are still living on java1.4 but in java 1.7, javolution rarely outplays java collections in terms of speed and most importantly, perfomance

[Intrepid]

seems like you are still living on java1.4 but in java 1.7, javolution rarely outplays java collections in terms of speed and most importantly, perfomance

 

Well based on the performance tests i've seen since the release HashMap is the only one that is better in reading(and reading only) than javolution. Others improved but not as much.

[xdem]

Well based on the performance tests i've seen since the release HashMap is the only one that is better in reading(and reading only) than javolution. Others improved but not as much.

 

 

javolution is "faster" on iterating but all these benchmarks are outdated for 5-10 years...

[Intrepid]

javolution is "faster" on iterating but all these benchmarks are outdated for 5-10 years...

 

Well than maybe you could link some fresh ones as i've seen a few comparing the newest stable javolution against java 1.7 but maybe not enough of them?

[Tryskell]

Forget aCis and all L2J packs, they're too bad for you, my Altess.

 

Regarding javolution, if L2P and L2J decided to removed it, maybe you are wrong... Maybe ? Maybe benchmarcks are old as fuck, maybe Trove itself doesn't worth to be used, while years ago benchmarks were saying the versus. Maybe Java evolved and you continue to whine and throw random stones on stuff you got no more clue about, because you got flawed vision.

 

Maybe.

 

Regarding my updates which aren't worthy, I invite you to make updates which are worthy, and we will speak after that. As Intrepid you bark a lot, but you don't bite.

 

Continue to bark, I like the sound ^^. Which is funny is except L2J, only aCis name is quoted in that thread atm. What about L2JFree ? Not worthy ? You were heavily defending it at a moment, why it's not a clear choice for you ? Seems L2JFree isn't sooooo cool as it has to be...

 

Maybe...

 

What about your previous TRY for a Interlude pack ? Did you forget it ? Did you give up ? Do the next project will follow it in the grave ? Just forget to post on those forums if it's only to feel cocky, while you can't even maintain something for more than 2 months.

 

Maybe........

Edited April 22, 2014 by Tryskell

[Intrepid]

Forget aCis and all L2J packs, they're too bad for you, my Altess.

 

Regarding javolution, if L2P and L2J decided to removed it, maybe you are wrong... Maybe ? Maybe benchmarcks are old as fuck, maybe Trove itself doesn't worth to be used, while years ago benchmarks were saying the versus. Maybe Java evolved and you continue to whine and throw random stones on stuff you got no more clue about, because you got flawed vision.

 

Maybe.

 

Regarding my updates which aren't worthy, I invite you to make updates which are worthy, and we will speak after that. As Intrepid you bark a lot, but you don't bite.

 

Continue to bark, I like the sound ^^. Which is funny is except L2J, only aCis name is quoted in that thread atm. What about L2JFree ? Not worthy ? You were heavily defending it at a moment, why it's not a clear choice for you ? Seems L2JFree isn't sooooo cool as it has to be...

 

Maybe...

 

What about your previous TRY for a Interlude pack ? Did you forget it ? Did you give up ? Do the next project will follow it in the grave ? Just forget to post on those forums if it's only to feel cocky, while you can't even maintain something for more than 2 months.

 

Maybe........

 

As i said before a lot of times and as everyone know who actually follows a little bit of everything as far as packs go that l2jfree and l2emu is the same now and its private, if you would know what i know about their progress and how they work you would hide in a corner and cry. :)

 

You seem to be blind for some reason to my first post i alredy i said i just miss coding a bit and i want to play around for the sake of nostalgia but keep hating if that makes you happy. :)

 

Now if you cant do anything else than talk down people liek your something superior maybe its better to staying silent or understand the 1st post. :)

[Tryskell]

Or I just continue my pack while you, the superior user of l2emu/l2jfree has been dropped of the process or at least don't want to be involved by it (for godamn known reason).

 

If what you say is true, L2JFree is probably not used. If it's still existing. But that, who really knows...

 

Keep searching a project ^^.

 

Btw, why to add back stuff like javolution, while your point is to use the pack only for developement and for fun (I guess use a pack to code and test your crap) ? Think a little. I don't get it personally.

Edited April 22, 2014 by Tryskell

[Intrepid]

Or I just continue my pack while you, the superior user of l2emu/l2jfree has been dropped of the process or at least don't want to be involved by it (for godamn known reason).

 

If what you say is true, L2JFree is probably not used. If it's still existing. But that, who really knows...

 

Keep searching a project ^^.

 

Btw, why to add back stuff like javolution, while your point is to use the pack only for developement and for fun (I guess use a pack to code and test your crap) ? Think a little. I don't get it personally.

 

 

See im not a superior user at all, i just prefer the thought process and workaround of l2jfree over l2j like you prefer l2j over l2jfree or emu whatever pack, matter of taste really. Indeed its private its not used for any server for the simple reason that they dont care about creating a server or making money with it, all they care about is to code for their own satisfaction because they like it. Lordrex in that sense is difficult to understand that i will give to you.

 

The reason to add back stuff or to modify things that "work alredy just fine" is something that my obsession sort of. I like it when things operate the way i want them to operate over the way someone decided to in some cases. Also the reason that java got better in some cases doesnt mean that javolution should be dropped entirely since there are still cases when javolution would be a better choice overall. And just a little addition, L2J long ago had an obsession as far as trove went, they were so obsessed with it they actually overused them instead of properly selecting what fits best for the exact code part to be better. That is what i always struggle to understand, Theres no overhead created by having an additional library in my opinion for some cases where its better. The reason i've heard many people say is that a coding pattern should be followed like a scheme to give a base to a certain code which is a nice idea but shouldnt be that strict in my opinion.

 

See even tho i dont intend to do anything other than just playing around in eclipse for my own liking that atleast for me wouldnt be enough if it would consist of adding a bunch of event like things. I like to do things in a similar mindset like lordrex does now because it has a good point, you dont need to shout out to the world what you do, if you really like it just do it but for yourself and yourself only.

Edited April 22, 2014 by Intrepid