Sellers and Buyers on this forum should read this

[zemaitis]

Hello,

 

I've decided to create a thread that less people would have been scammed. Hope moderators will get this sticky, cause I'm willing to update this topic with new informations.

 

As you may already know, recently I got scammed by KderD64 user member on this forum, you can read about this on http://maxcheaters.com/forum/index.php?topic=278804.0 or http://maxcheaters.com/forum/index.php?topic=278851.0 but it doesn't matter now. Topic is not about this.

 

What I offer people who are posting in Web Hosting section?

 

I offer moderators to add new rules. For example, if you want to sell the host, you need to provide public information, not just advertisement "I sell vds in germany ddos protected pm me on skype" because lot of people got scammed by that.

What criteries should those sellers fit? What infos should they provide?

 

Let's think about that.. They should provide us this information:

 

1. VDS Country Location

2. Parameters (RAM, CPU, Internet speed, Traffic Bandwidth limit)

3. Providers website

4. Do they have a reseller status, if not, the reason why they are selling their VDS

5. Their service expiration date

6. Is DDoS protections included? If yes, describe it's capability (for example protection from 10gbps attacks)

6.1. Provide ip address to test DDoS protections - it may be gameserver or websites url's

7. If you have already sold services before, show us the list of your clients and give their forum usernames, also websites where we could see what these people bought from you.

8. Price of your service (who pays taxes - you or buyer?)

9. Do they offer refund? If yes, after service ordering when you can demand for refund - in 7 days or 30 days?

 

So people would create topics for 2 reasons: 1. Is to provide services to others 2. It's just simply resell service from another hosting company.

 

What buyers in these topics should know?

 

Well, from my experience I can tell that if moderators add those rules which I written above, buyers will know a lot of crucial information about the sellers already. However, you can't fully protect from scammers, so I can give you one advice when you pay for services on PayPal.

 

If you pay by PayPal, always send the money to service providers by using "paying for goods and services" option. Don't try to save your money by using "paying for families and friends or gifts option" and I'l tell you why. When you send your payment as a gift to service seller - that's all, you are screwed. Cause you can't refund gift payments. Another advice don't have business with sellers who asks your paypal e-mail and then send you money request form which you pay. Because when you pay their request, you also accept that they have sold their virtual services to you and you agree not to dispute the payment.

 

So, if you pay the sellers request or you pay them by sending money with option friends/family/gift you will not be able to dispute and receive the money in case of scam.

 

Hope it helps, be free to add more information to this topic. I didn't found where to create it so I created it here.

[FinalGod]

Not bad at all.I could sticky this and update the rules with this but i have talked with wrd and he will talk with the head staff.We have to take a decision together.

[zemaitis]

Not bad at all.I could sticky this and update the rules with this but i have talked with wrd and he will talk with the head staff.We have to take a decision together.

 

Okay, let's make this forum a better place

[Diabaths]

Okay, let's make this forum a better place

 

agree with all dude +1 from me

[InTheEndॐ]

+1 Karma from me,your share is P E R F E C T! It will help many newbies!Thanks.

[FinalGod]

+1 Karma from me,your share is P E R F E C T! It will help many newbies!Thanks.

You must be kidding me right?+1 karma for what?Ok i have to admit that his thought was awesome but there are some negative things on this which i will post once i talked with the whole head staff.

 

He just expressed an opinion.

 

No problem at all with the author but karma fixed.

[zemaitis]

You must be kidding me right?+1 karma for what?Ok i have to admit that his thought was awesome but there are some negative things on this which i will post once i talked with the whole head staff.

 

He just expressed an opinion.

 

No problem at all with the author but karma fixed.

 

I told them dont pay money requests and I knew that after 1 year of being in business. But screw it, it doesnt mean that I'm worth karma or recognition :D

[FinalGod]

I told them dont pay money requests and I knew that after 1 year of being in business. But screw it, it doesnt mean that I'm worth karma or recognition :D

I know that's why it got fixed.

[zemaitis]

I know that's why it got fixed.

 

[sarcasm]Well yeah, now lots of ppl won't get screwed cause they will not pay payment requests, and this is only my opinion not worth even karma :D[/sarcasm]

 

Nevermind then

[FinalGod]

By the way Justice is aware of this topic.

[zemaitis]

By the way Justice is aware of this topic.

 

Seems that you dont care about forum members security, couple days passsed and you did nothing. It's like when kder stole 100 euros from one guy and you didnt banned him, then he robbed others :D

[Intrepid]

kudos to you , nice topic

[MWZ]

All good, and even with all this, there will still be the scammers and opportunists around...

[zemaitis]

All good, and even with all this, there will still be the scammers and opportunists around...

 

Yep there will be. Atleast most of them will be to lazy faking their informations

[MWZ]

Yep there will be. Atleast most of them will be to lazy faking their informations

 

When they really want, you know this is easy as hell... :P