sotid Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 So Ive been working with kara since March 2019 all started almost fine . At April I was talking to him to make a complete Community Board with how I imagined it . He knew what project and client I am working with, because he already has installed his vote manager on my server. My total payment to Kara is about 750 euros . But he did the rest , of course not at the right time , always late and full of bugs that he had to fix , but he did the work done. He never finished this CB that I will talk about . After I showed him how I picture my cb to look like he told me okay its possible and the cost will be around 350 euro. These are some samples that I made to make him understand :http://prntscr.com/qnohzo http://prntscr.com/qnoiaq Him understanding what I need.http://prntscr.com/qnoin5 I have gained his trust by then cause of his previous work and prepaid him 350 euro and I told him we will finish some leftovers from the previous codes and then we will start the CB.http://prntscr.com/qno2f8 After 1-3 days a dispute to his account and a report on the forums started.http://prntscr.com/qno3ft I was worried that I will get scammed too , and I played my character , didn't push him to finish anything so he wont scam me or he wont vanish. Anyways to finish with that all he didnt make my cb cause of he limited knowledge of html coding,client coding. And after that we make a decision to just make an achievement system only and he told me that it will cost 100 euros and the rest will make them codes. http://prntscr.com/qnong4 http://prntscr.com/qnonmg http://prntscr.com/qnonuo http://prntscr.com/qnoo0z http://prntscr.com/qnoog2 http://prntscr.com/qnoolx He was asking me some htmls to go buy from stinkymadness even though he told me he will get them from him as said he did it in the past. Anyways after that he fixed some previous bugs that left and made the achievement that he finally finished like 1-2 months ago . After that I made another list with new tasks that I needed and did some of them and paid them few days later when he finished them .After that I reminded him that he stills hasnt finished his previous work . After that I opened my server ,got a lot of errors from his codes and fixes. And we are at present saying him that I want part of my money back for the work that he didnt do and he is saying he doesnt give me anything back. http://prntscr.com/qnovq0 http://prntscr.com/qnovvb http://prntscr.com/qnow1z http://prntscr.com/qnow6o http://prntscr.com/qnowcu I wouldnt report him , I would still try to get my money back but after I showed the conversation to 3 other people including other devs they all told me to report him so I did. Hopefully he gets banned forever this time and his alt accounts.I dont even understand the reason he is getting always unbanned. Unfortunately I cant post the whole conversation cause it goes back to march and we were talking almost every other day. Plus he ditched me the day I was opening the server and the previous one and didnt fix some last errors and had to pay another developer to fix his errors.
Kara12 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) What's the point? You paid for the codes, you received your codes. I'm doing java codes for you 1 year now and whenever you asked for any small code (addon) i didn't ask for money. Now all of sudden i own you money? You won't find any other better than me to do the stuff you asked. Nobody would work with such detail. Be sure of that. Show the codes i made for you :) And let's see who own money to who So basically you have no proof. I made all the coded you asked, you just try present me as a bad person. Even the achievement system you show i made it for you and we both saw it works completely fine, why don't you post files here to show everyone how "buggy" and bad my code of achievement is? Go i dare you to post the achievement code here and let anyone see that i "didn't make them for you" :) Oh wait im sorry you have it on your running server right now. I guess this code were done by ghosts? Cause kara didn't finish that for you. Maybe because you're just a lie. You're already running your server with my codes You run your server because of me & you report your own DEV. Nice. PS. to any mod who read this topic, ask him first to show you the codes i made for him. You don't need to be dev to judge that the money he paid is trash compared to the quantity of codes. Edited January 14, 2020 by Kara`
AlmostGood Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 here we go again, whats the excuse this time? :D
BruT Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Kara` said: What's the point? You paid for the codes, you received your codes. I'm doing java codes for you 1 year now and whenever you asked for any small code (addon) i didn't ask for money. Now all of sudden i own you money? You won't find any other better than me to do the stuff you asked. Nobody would work with such detail. Be sure of that. Show the codes i made for you :) And let's see who own money to who So basically you have no proof. I made all the coded you asked, you just try present me as a bad person. Even the achievement system you show i made it for you and we both saw it works completely fine, why don't you post files here to show everyone how "buggy" and bad my code of achievement is? Go i dare you to post the achievement code here and let anyone see that i "didn't make them for you" :) Oh wait im sorry you have it on your running server right now. I guess this code were done by ghosts? Cause kara didn't finish that for you. Maybe because you're just a lie. You're already running your server with my codes You run your server because of me & you report your own DEV. Nice. PS. to any mod who read this topic, ask him first to show you the codes i made for him. You don't need to be dev to judge that the money he paid is trash compared to the quantity of codes. noone asked you to explain anything, the question is here did he paid 350e for specific community board and did you made it for him, thats the question.
sotid Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kara` said: "You run your server because of me & you report your own DEV. Nice." Let me laugh , haha. Good developing skills everyone , server live: Errors from subclass manager errors from his then 150 euro event manager Unfinished formulas Broken PvP Protectors(That before he touched it was okay). Broken PvP Color System(That before he touched it was okay). And more. And now wait till he says that I broke them and not his codes . Lol. I was begging you the last two weeks to fix your bugged codes and when did you try to help me? 1 hour after the server opened. Thanks to Brut that was present at that time that we fixed some of the errors.
Kara12 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, sotid said: Let me laugh , haha. Good developing skills everyone , server live: Errors from subclass manager errors from his then 150 euro event manager Unfinished formulas Broken PvP Protectors(That before he touched it was okay). Broken PvP Color System(That before he touched it was okay). And more. And now wait till he says that I broke them and not his codes . Lol. I was begging you the last two weeks to fix your bugged codes and when did you try to help me? 1 hour after the server opened. Thanks to Brut that was present at that time that we fixed some of the errors. Thanks to Brut who stole 200e from Dimi and lied that he gave em back to Dimi while Dimis said that he didn't and he had to open dispute and win. Right. Whatever you guys aint change. You got your codes. You got your topic now u happy.
BruT Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kara` said: Thanks to Brut who stole 200e from Dimi and lied that he gave em back to Dimi while Dimis said that he didn't and he had to open dispute and win. Right. Whatever you guys aint change. You got your codes. You got your topic now u happy. noone cares about me right now, the question is did he get what he paid for, or did he got his money back, plus you are nobody to judge anybody here neither i am judging a moron like you, i asked a simple question. Edited January 14, 2020 by BruT 1
sotid Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 changing the subject as always I see kara. Just now, BruT said: noone cares about me right now, the question is did he get what he paid for, or did he got his money back I got nothing.
Kara12 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BruT said: noone cares about me right now, the question is did he get what he paid for, or did he got his money back Why take his money back? How do you know what work i've done for him? You just comment here because you don't like me. I've done the codes he ask (delay or no delay) i made the codes. He opened his server. Now in his head i own him 200e. About community board he didn't mention a thing 8 months now. If he had problem why he kept paying me for new list? The Achievement system i made for him with the extra addons he asked easily go up to 200+ euro right now. And sometimes he ask for extra code that i didn't charge him, but i was kind and make it the way he like. He is demanding client and i made the codes the way he exactly liked. What 200e are we talking about people? This topic is not about scam is about a stubborn person who in his head cost the code less than they worth. Share the pack here and we see what code's i didnt make. Go share it Go people take your "poison" out. Show in this community once again how good everyone else is but me go. I don't care when i am right on something or no the attribute won't change. Even if a client come tomorrow, i finish his code and he dispute and report me same people will comment again. What changed 10 years now to change all of sudden in a topic. PS that was my last post on this topic any mod or idk who read this, ask him to give you source - files first and check all the code i've done in his frozen pack. Go ahead ask him to show you the code. Edited January 14, 2020 by Kara` 1
BruT Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) in 8 months you copied one achievement mod fixed several stuff and you got paid like 500e for that, you must be proud of your self and in fact i saw your chat logs with him too you wasnt answering his msgs for days while u were chatting with other people. Edited January 14, 2020 by BruT
Kara12 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, BruT said: in 8 months you copied one achievement mod fixed several stuff and you got paid like 500e for that, you must be proud of your self No code i ever made is copied by anyone. If someone think i lie please post the whole achievement system and let's examine it. All the codes i made were from scratch.
BruT Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kara` said: No code i ever made is copied by anyone. If someone think i lie please post the whole achievement system and let's examine it. All the codes i made were from scratch. thats only in your imaginarium, except that you sell rizen's event engine lol
Kara12 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, BruT said: in 8 months you copied one achievement mod fixed several stuff and you got paid like 500e for that, you must be proud of your self and in fact i saw your chat logs with him too you wasnt answering his msgs for days while u were chatting with other people. I never ignored him. + Since when you know greek?
Kara12 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, BruT said: thats only in your imaginarium, except that you sell rizen's event engine lol Call Celestine or someone to enter in my PC view the code and compare. If the code is 5% same ban me instantly. @Celestine May i ask if you're in mood to check my code? Just a quick view and compare to Rizel
sotid Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Brut its okay mate, the mods of the site will take care of him and ask me for more information . I have all I need the payments the conversation everything. If they need anything else I can show them no need to waste your time talking to a wall because that how it feels talking to him. Edited January 14, 2020 by sotid
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