Discussion Can't Ppl Play W/o Donations Any More?!

[Mr Tanka]

Have Stallone destroyed Linage through its donating servers?!

Or do pepole become too comfortable becasue u can donate to everything?!

Watch L2Pow server where u can not donate to everything, ppl do not know what to do...

If u just want to pcp why not just joni L2gang x1000 or smth?! 

 

The allure of the game is gone to farm and pvp with a B grade char while fighting over a farming spot...  

[SweeTs]

New generation of pathetic community, to be honest. They don't know the meaning of the game. They never experienced that. Old players are like dinosaurs..

 

It's not only about donations, it's fine, you have money and you don't want to farm, then why not. It's about lazy community who wants to gear up in less than an hour.

Edited December 25, 2014 by SweeTs

[Karasu]

its ok

more money to me 

:gusta:

 

rather is unfair to play the new mmorpg koreans and farming months to get latest armor/wep then wake up with update to a newer armor/wep ,so ur screwed ,1 good reason to buy gold from bot farmers ,to get everything fast ,and stop enjoy grind

ppl like to pvp and be stronger/better geared than others ,thats about it.

 

Im also going to buy gold on black desert when its release, no point grinding, wtf? life more important, grinding is not "enjoy the game " ,it makes you unninstal game only just like i di with archeage ,crap gameplay anyway and shitty endgame content/armors etc

Edited December 25, 2014 by Karasu

[Tessa]

The simplest answer is NO!

Why no? Because the current l2 community is looking only for pvp, no matter if they play on x1 or x10000 servers. They don't want to farm, craft etc in order to reach the top.. they want everything on the moment! The whole idea about team play is dead, because most of the players have never seen the official servers in C3, C4, C5... where everything was a team play. So, what do you expect from a player that have never played this game?

[Karasu]

Welcome new generation

 

Actually a reason why youre pushed to donate is because you see another ppl donating, and you think

 

" why should i waste months to farm/grind when i can donate and be better than those noob donators anyway "

 

So is not everybody fault, they donate also becuz other ppl force them to donate for looking down at them...

[ViperTech]

Is not easy to keep alive server with over high online...you need money for server machine,website,for Gms etc...lineage 2 classic us server will alive soon with over 15k online..just wait for that...server will be pay2play but at korean and ru servers players are farming and selling items at ebay etc...there is no way to found-make server without donate bots item sellers etc..

[ViperTech]

You cant buy everything with money...i remember old times.. exp hours with full party to get 5 6 % at loa...now? You can solo with ur bots - enter million times kamaloka with donate - do pailaka quests and other shits.. you can buy exp cakes...servers are dying in 3 4 moths cause players are making full gear etc in few weeks..no farm = no fun... ppls are not pay for support anymore..

[Frank]

New generation of pathetic community, to be honest. They don't know the meaning of the game. They never experienced that. Old players are like dinosaurs..

 

It's not only about donations, it's fine, you have money and you don't want to farm, then why not. It's about lazy community who wants to gear up in less than an hour

Old players are like dinosaurs and dinosaurs are dead. So let's face it, the old craft, farm, "b grade mind aura" and especially the marketplace community of a server. Lineage 2 was a game where you could do so many things and it was never boring cause of things that "new" players may haven't even heard of. Then they ask why servers are dead after a few months? Idiot admins are taking their money or w/e, and they don't do the favour first. Start playing lineage 2 again to find out what this game means and then you will see only the best to survive. But obviously stupidity is the new era's drug.

[kyosume]

A huge & important role in this is played by the "DEVs" and all these crappy/custom servers,bots,hacks,retarded donations,too much greed/hatred that pushed L2 Community into becoming what it is today. Don't blame the players for not wanting to play a normal server, they don't know what is normal in L2 anymore.

Edited December 26, 2014 by kyosume

[Epiquin]

Largely disparate opinions. 

 

 

People keep recalling "normal L2". I don't see the appeal of normal. The common argument was that NCsoft knew what they were doing (with class balance, content, etc), which is bullshit. The game was designed for the korean audience that is so downright retarded because fundamentally dumb things like gender bias exists in the East. NCSoft even admitted in their interviews that the whole class structure was designed around it.

 

lazy community who wants to gear up in less than an hour.

Honestly, who wants to play the fkn NASCAR race to level 85 still? Going through level 1-70 for 9999th time over the last 10 years is not downright miserable and agonising yet?

 

What do you achieve by making people lvling/gear up in a week as opposed to lvling/gear up in an hour? 

 

Maybe dinosaurs should do what they do best - stay dead.

 

Not the communities fault that "devs" keep releasing same shit over and over. As if fkn rebirth hasn't been done a million times before. Or PvP "rewards" that are downright exploitable. Or virtually any form of "events". The community is far smarter than you believe it is.

 

There was a GM once on infinitel2 that would force TvT events because people would never play the objective, calling the players stupid and incapable of working as a team. The reality was playing objectives in CTF/DOM was worth less than simply walking around kill everything that moved. 

You need incentive before motivation. Tired of lvling up on every 1000x server I see just to get to lvl 85 for the millionth time. Been there done that...

Edited December 26, 2014 by Epiquin

[Mr Tanka]

But the biggest problem servers today have is that there is nothing to do.. Stand in dv wating all day for someone to kill?! 

[BabayG]

+1 all day in dv loa to kill flagged ppl

[SweeTs]

Start playing lineage 2 again to find out what this game means and then you will see only the best to survive. But obviously stupidity is the new era's drug.

This.

 

Don't blame the players for not wanting to play a normal server, they don't know what is normal in L2 anymore.

This.

 

Honestly, who wants to play the fkn NASCAR race to level 85 still? Going through level 1-70 for 9999th time over the last 10 years is not downright miserable and agonising yet?

 

Tired of lvling up on every 1000x server I see just to get to lvl 85 for the millionth time. Been there done that...

That's the point of l2. So, following your 'footsteps thinking', we should give them max lvl, top gear and top ++ of the items, just because they did it milion times before? Get real. Leveling from 1-80 or w/e lvl we are talking about, is also a journey. They still can do the same as they were top lvl.

 

But the biggest problem servers today have is that there is nothing to do.. Stand in dv wating all day for someone to kill?! 

This. When we will give them everything in less than an hour, they have nothing to do. They just afk in town for stupid vote reward for 100% enchant scrolls and such, and they seek for the pvp. If there is no enemy, they leave game cuz "there is nothing to do". That's why leveling, collecting various items is important. You always have something to do.

Edited December 26, 2014 by SweeTs

[Epiquin]

Get real. 

I am real. A lot of people are. Thats why server die in a month. Even those that have the whole "hey spend a week to lvl up for 1 hour of figuring out why this server sucks" journey mode. 

 

 

EVE online doesn't have a lvling system at all. You don't even get SP for farming mobs. Game is alive for more than L2 and even has regular news articles about it. 

 

Because EVE online was engineered. 

 

Private L2 servers are just copy/paste with no thinking and expecting things to turn out ok just cos. Players move on. It's dev choice to move on as well or stroke their cock trying to figure out why the Journey doesn't work anymore. Probably because it's boring. 

 

There is nothing to do in L2 because everything in it is finite and only a matter of time. Gaining gear? Just get enough adena and its yours. A certain skill? Just grind enough mobs and its yours. When everything is finite there is a clear stagnation point - a time when nothing else is needed. We've been there is a thousand times. We all know it occurs. We need a server where that doesn't occur, i.e. a server with a proper asset economy. Economy isn't just money/adena/currency. 

Edited December 26, 2014 by Epiquin

[kyosume]

 

EVE online doesn't have a lvling system at all. You don't even get SP for farming mobs. Game is alive for more than L2 and even has regular news articles about it. 

 

WoW! What you gonna say next? L2 is like World of Warcraft or Blade & Soul?