hohoho Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 nice guide. Helpfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cs.tribal Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 rolf. i was looking for exactly this guide some months ago! ;p thank u mate.gonna help me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPK777 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 why fire on dominator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demianath Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 steal essence is a fire skill not dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celina Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Why are you people so narrow-minded? Rofl. Everyone can chose their own Attribute on their own character, it's not typical for everyone to use the Attributes that people are expecting them to have. You must be smart to play with Attributes. For example, on dwarfs you're saying earth, why earth ? Because of the Earthquake ? Dominator with Fire? Grand Khavatari with Fire? Doomcryer with Fire?Shilien Saint HOLY????????? Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpants Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Why are you people so narrow-minded? Rofl. Everyone can chose their own Attribute on their own character, it's not typical for everyone to use the Attributes that people are expecting them to have. You must be smart to play with Attributes. For example, on dwarfs you're saying earth, why earth ? Because of the Earthquake ? Dominator with Fire? Grand Khavatari with Fire? Doomcryer with Fire?Shilien Saint HOLY????????? Jesus. Yes. Attribute from weapon and skill is additive - easier to break defense. Having 300 holy on a dwarf doesn't do shit against 300 def. Having 300 earth +50 something from earthquake is gonna do better against 300 def. But that's just words. Cos most people have way more than 300 def and thus attributes are pretty useless unless you can decrease the enemies defense. Which means mostly mages, some summoners, maybe tanks. Attributes hold no relevance for majority of classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Ambra| Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 On MS i prefer dark atri +dark weapon. And on GH i dont even use attri ;) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Attribute from weapon and skill is additive - easier to break defense. Having 300 holy on a dwarf doesn't do shit against 300 def. Having 300 earth +50 something from earthquake is gonna do better against 300 def. Actually it won't. what is over 300 has the same bonus dmg. Maybe this will help you understand: http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=29&t=3 And on GH i dont even use attri ;) . If you have skills on duel the attribute won't matter anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpants Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Actually it won't. what is over 300 has the same bonus dmg. Maybe this will help you understand: http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=29&t=3 If you have skills on duel the attribute won't matter anyway. 300 attack - 300 defense + 50 from skill > 300? Does that help you understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilGolem Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 fire in dominator, steal is no-atribute :s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 300 attack - 300 defense + 50 from skill > 300? Does that help you understand? It does not. It adds it to you current attribute.. so you will have 350 on attack and the opponent still has 300+ (1 is enough) so it won`t make a difference. To make a difference you can use a skill like Wind vortex- [Decreases Wind Resistance by 20]+ Surrender to wind [Decreases Wind Resistance by 20] +Hurricane +30 Wind Vulnerability[Weakens the target's Wind Resistance by 50] and hope that you will make his defense under 300 (speaking on wind defense in this case-was easier to give an example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolescu5 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 good guide i didnt know some things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cEn Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpants Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 300 attack - 300 defense + 50 from skill > 300? It does not. It adds it to you current attribute.. so you will have 350 on attack You trolling? so it won`t make a difference. Yeah. The difference between 0 and 50 is 0 then? Check your table. Every point before 50 has a bonus. TLDR (because you are talking about the same thing I am and not realizing) going Earth on a dwarf does make a difference for Earthquake as stated as long as you weapon attribute is = or > of enemy defense attribute *in fact you can be up to 49 points less and you will get a bonus* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 You trolling? Yeah. The difference between 0 and 50 is 0 then? Check your table. Every point before 50 has a bonus. TLDR (because you are talking about the same thing I am and not realizing) going Earth on a dwarf does make a difference for Earthquake as stated as long as you weapon attribute is = or > of enemy defense attribute *in fact you can be up to 49 points less and you will get a bonus* So, if a dwarf has 300 earth on weapon, and he enchants his skill on earth attack wich will add 50 more points to earth attack making it 350, when clearly on that l2j.ru table it says that over 300 it does not make any difference (ex: 350,380,over9000 will get you the same ~70% dmg bonus), you claim that you will do extra damage.... PS: and no, i'm not trolling... it is easier to test the other way around since both attack and defense have the same bonuses... take a char with 300+ defense on some attribute [hit it] after add some buff resists [and hit it again]... you will have the same damage from an user that uses 300 attribute attack. (keep in mind that damage is random so you will need a decent number of hits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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