What's going on ?

[daddypanterl2]

Hey, im over disgussted watching a lot of useless servers, this didn't happen to me never in the ten years of gameplay, when i started to play eight years ago, since C2 and C3 all classes were balanced, and yes there were corruptions and donations related, but not like now, i dont say all servers are the same right now, because i cant generalize, but , its just holy crap!!! to find a server that can be useful,

 

as i can see, there are many corruptions with wannabe "gamemasters" that never had an workful experience on low rate like was L2 Zeus, affs,

before i begun to play again today, im just surprised with the things i see, on the servers that i tried to play and stay in, basically the servers runs for make money for donations, they dont care about free gaming players, and that is an big error, you must take care of all people if you want an long longevity server, and make the donations balanced in game, so, the non-donations players can play balanced,

 

so, what do you think about that?

[Glamortius]

What do you expect my friend?

From now on, all are opening servers for having a nice pocket-money just this.

As you already mentioned they dont care. They open a server when the servers has 600 people online and the donations are in full and they got a nice budget they just close the server.

This is the truth sadly.

[daddypanterl2]

I expected another climate and more professionality of the private servers due the years of lineage , this just make me sad, actually, Im playing on HF5 L2 Client at Equionimity server, don't remember the exactly name, and it seems good , at the moment...

 

I also have Interlude client, if you know a stabilty server, please make me to know that,

and lets have hope for new generation of private servers,

[sandpants]

What do you expect?

 

What do you want?

 

C2-C3 back? You want 1000 players in one server? Big clans to go raid epic bosses?

 

Do you know what people have to go through? lvl 1 starting area, grind to level 12 -> RoD to 20+ -> some other farm zone, etc etc. All the time same thing. Grind, spoil, craft, fail, spoil, grind, craft low grade gear for 5 hours of gameplay, then destroy.

 

 

Are you willing to play on something new? Because when someone creates a unique server everyone flames and says they don't know what L2 is about.lol.

All the people  that have brains left L2 because it is

1) repetitve

2) Low skill ceiling

3) rock paper scissors balance

4) No incentive. Get item -> forget all problems.

 

There is no constant need of items in general. There is just a single particular goal - get best items. First to get there owns all people who are slower. When more people get same items people leave.

 

To get people to play seriously there have to be changes to fundamental mechanics of the game.

Why have lvling? You didnt have enough of lvling in 10 years? Do you need lvl 1-78? Is there a point to doing all the quests again?

Why can I just craft top gear enchant it to +6 and forget about getting gear all together? But before that, you cannot do anything at all. If you try to PVP it will suck. Because gear makes a big difference. Unless you are herp derp. Or play a weak class.

 

Which brings to another point. Class balance. You try to change skills - people go "lol noob no retail balance". Make retail balance people say - "Lol balance bad".

 

Welcome to L2 2008-2013.

 

Its not that people have different opinions. It's just people are not open to new things. If someone made something new I bet people wouldn't care what there was 10 years ago.

 

Old game is old. Play same servers if you want. I remember when a friend of mine would play low rates. He would farm daily just to craft all gear, get to lvl 78-80, PvP about 4 hours total throughout a week, quit, move to other server.

I was playing Ininitel2 and had PvP 24/7 whilst casually working towards better gear, working in a team with different clans and parties.

 

Don't need C2-C3, interlude, c4, gracia final, low rate, stack sub, rebirth or any that shit to have a good server.

[Intrepid]

You know nowdays l2j become so easy to manage that even a donkey can open a server, and sometimes thats whats happening a donkey(no offense but usually a greek donkey) opens a server with hes 0 gameplay/admin experience and 0 development skills just for the sake of having a server. Theres nobody left whos doing it because of passion and the fact that hes capable of managing a good server, only money matters nowdays.

[daddypanterl2]

What do you expect?

 

What do you want?

 

C2-C3 back? You want 1000 players in one server? Big clans to go raid epic bosses?

 

Do you know what people have to go through? lvl 1 starting area, grind to level 12 -> RoD to 20+ -> some other farm zone, etc etc. All the time same thing. Grind, spoil, craft, fail, spoil, grind, craft low grade gear for 5 hours of gameplay, then destroy.

 

 

Are you willing to play on something new? Because when someone creates a unique server everyone flames and says they don't know what L2 is about.lol.

All the people  that have brains left L2 because it is

1) repetitve

2) Low skill ceiling

3) rock paper scissors balance

4) No incentive. Get item -> forget all problems.

 

There is no constant need of items in general. There is just a single particular goal - get best items. First to get there owns all people who are slower. When more people get same items people leave.

 

To get people to play seriously there have to be changes to fundamental mechanics of the game.

Why have lvling? You didnt have enough of lvling in 10 years? Do you need lvl 1-78? Is there a point to doing all the quests again?

Why can I just craft top gear enchant it to +6 and forget about getting gear all together? But before that, you cannot do anything at all. If you try to PVP it will suck. Because gear makes a big difference. Unless you are herp derp. Or play a weak class.

 

Which brings to another point. Class balance. You try to change skills - people go "lol noob no retail balance". Make retail balance people say - "Lol balance bad".

 

Welcome to L2 2008-2013.

 

Its not that people have different opinions. It's just people are not open to new things. If someone made something new I bet people wouldn't care what there was 10 years ago.

 

Old game is old. Play same servers if you want. I remember when a friend of mine would play low rates. He would farm daily just to craft all gear, get to lvl 78-80, PvP about 4 hours total throughout a week, quit, move to other server.

I was playing Ininitel2 and had PvP 24/7 whilst casually working towards better gear, working in a team with different clans and parties.

 

Don't need C2-C3, interlude, c4, gracia final, low rate, stack sub, rebirth or any that shit to have a good server.

 

+100,

 

returning back to retail , greetz

[nates]

What do you expect?

 

What do you want?

 

C2-C3 back? You want 1000 players in one server? Big clans to go raid epic bosses?

 

Do you know what people have to go through? lvl 1 starting area, grind to level 12 -> RoD to 20+ -> some other farm zone, etc etc. All the time same thing. Grind, spoil, craft, fail, spoil, grind, craft low grade gear for 5 hours of gameplay, then destroy.

 

 

Are you willing to play on something new? Because when someone creates a unique server everyone flames and says they don't know what L2 is about.lol.

All the people  that have brains left L2 because it is

1) repetitve

2) Low skill ceiling

3) rock paper scissors balance

4) No incentive. Get item -> forget all problems.

 

There is no constant need of items in general. There is just a single particular goal - get best items. First to get there owns all people who are slower. When more people get same items people leave.

 

To get people to play seriously there have to be changes to fundamental mechanics of the game.

Why have lvling? You didnt have enough of lvling in 10 years? Do you need lvl 1-78? Is there a point to doing all the quests again?

Why can I just craft top gear enchant it to +6 and forget about getting gear all together? But before that, you cannot do anything at all. If you try to PVP it will suck. Because gear makes a big difference. Unless you are herp derp. Or play a weak class.

 

Which brings to another point. Class balance. You try to change skills - people go "lol noob no retail balance". Make retail balance people say - "Lol balance bad".

 

Welcome to L2 2008-2013.

 

Its not that people have different opinions. It's just people are not open to new things. If someone made something new I bet people wouldn't care what there was 10 years ago.

 

Old game is old. Play same servers if you want. I remember when a friend of mine would play low rates. He would farm daily just to craft all gear, get to lvl 78-80, PvP about 4 hours total throughout a week, quit, move to other server.

I was playing Ininitel2 and had PvP 24/7 whilst casually working towards better gear, working in a team with different clans and parties.

 

Don't need C2-C3, interlude, c4, gracia final, low rate, stack sub, rebirth or any that shit to have a good server.

 

I remember when we still played in C2 and beginning of C3, I was playing a gladi. In my clan we didnt play to get the best gear the fastest but to enjoy the game while training. We were semi good clan, which could win some wars, but the top clans did kill us if we went to a fully open war. Thats the time i like to remember most, because I had a lot of fun. And back then you droped items if you got killed (even without karma), I farmed like mad for dual SLS (i think). I droped them the same day, because a dagger pulled a full train on me and faked death. The whole clan helped me to farm again for them and i got them in 1 week :))

 

Thats whats Lineage 2 is about (for me). And of course DRAMA :P

[Frank]

 

Its not that people have different opinions. It's just people are not open to new things. If someone made something new I bet people wouldn't care what there was 10 years ago.

 

 

You know nowdays l2j become so easy to manage that even a donkey can open a server, and sometimes thats whats happening a donkey(no offense but usually a greek donkey) opens a server with hes 0 gameplay/admin experience and 0 development skills just for the sake of having a server. Theres nobody left whos doing it because of passion and the fact that hes capable of managing a good server, only money matters nowdays.

 

I totally agree with those quotes and I will add something more, servers are not recyclable. That's a really big problem if you get my meaning

[l2temper]

I totally agree with those quotes and I will add something more, servers are not recyclable. That's a really big problem if you get my meaning

thats an intresting concept, do you have any particular ideas about recyclable gameplay?

[DragonD]

:not bad: :not bad: :not bad:

[Intrepid]

lineage is ended when new chronicles arrived , the real play collapsed.

 

Tell that to ncsoft after lineage 2 beeing in the top 10 of most played games in 2012(official servers only) :D

[Frank]

thats an intresting concept, do you have any particular ideas about recyclable gameplay?

 

yes i do, and im not going to share my thoughts, sorry

[N1nj4Styl3]

You know nowdays l2j become so easy to manage that even a donkey can open a server, and sometimes thats whats happening a donkey(no offense but usually a greek donkey) opens a server with hes 0 gameplay/admin experience and 0 development skills just for the sake of having a server. Theres nobody left whos doing it because of passion and the fact that hes capable of managing a good server, only money matters nowdays.

 

yeah and usually the wanna be admins who patched all the shared things from mxc gains more people than the experienced dev.. then what the experienced Dev do? He closes the server.

 

Sad, but true.

[DragonD]

yeah and usually the wanna be admins who patched all the shared things from mxc gains more people than the experienced dev.. then what the experienced Dev do? He closes the server.

 

Sad, but true.

 

Maxtor is looking for patnership ?  bullsh  he want stole new files coz previous robbed files not worked well,let him run forum the only thing he know how to do . miserable gr33k ;/

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[`iAndre]

Maxtor is looking for patnership ?  bullsh  he want stole new files coz previous robbed files not worked well,let him run forum the only thing he know how to do . miserable gr33k ;/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/donkeyapoioswa1.jpg/

Stop acusing everyone , get a life kid.