Discussion Help Me Decide Which Path To Follow

[Re1d]

Hello mxc,

 

I am currently thinking what to study. I am thinking of doing s bachelors in game design/development

And a software engineer which is basically a lot of coding included .

 

I'd like to be able to read and write my own codes and develop gaming environments but the bachelor of interactive media is focusing on animation the first year and then you select your elective which for me will be game design .

 

Which degree will give me the best experience on gaming industry; there is not much coding included in the game degree but you learn to use unity and how to develop it for example. Whilst the other one ( software engineer is basically coding software from scratch .

 

I love gaming and I'd like to be able to become a l2 dev and much more on gaming .

 

But maybe if I focus on coding I can learn that to without doing a game design /dev degree;

 

Is there any person in here that has been there done that and has a good advice to give ;

 

Will be much appreciated.

 

Thanks .

[ganjaradio]

Game desing <> Game development.

Game designers write the info about the game that will help the programmers etc to start ctreating it

[AccessDenied]

Hello mxc,

 

I am currently thinking what to study. I am thinking of doing s bachelors in game design/development

And a software engineer which is basically a lot of coding included .

 

I'd like to be able to read and write my own codes and develop gaming environments but the bachelor of interactive media is focusing on animation the first year and then you select your elective which for me will be game design .

 

Which degree will give me the best experience on gaming industry; there is not much coding included in the game degree but you learn to use unity and how to develop it for example. Whilst the other one ( software engineer is basically coding software from scratch .

 

I love gaming and I'd like to be able to become a l2 dev and much more on gaming .

 

But maybe if I focus on coding I can learn that to without doing a game design /dev degree;

 

Is there any person in here that has been there done that and has a good advice to give ;

 

Will be much appreciated.

 

Thanks .

 

 

Game desing <> Game development.

Game designers write the info about the game that will help the programmers etc to start ctreating it

 

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You shouldn't be laughing.

A game designer has absolutely nothing to do with a game developer.

[An4rchy]

I am currently on the 2nd year doing Computer Science and I will give you my opinion.

 

First of all, you should only follow programming/game engineering if you are absolutely sure you like coding and game development, because trust me, not everything works as l2j. You can become a l2j developer without even studying java, but studying on l2j code itself (see Tryskell, as he said he didn't have java knowledge when he begun and now he can code pretty much anything **in l2j**).

 

Another thing, don't expect your university to teach you everything you need, they will give you the basics and introduce you to programming but then you have to work your way up by reading online and practising a lot. Sure, there will be guidance on how to do that because of the projects you will be doing in your degree (for example this year I have to make an android application as a team project), but if you aim specifically for something you need to study on your own.

 

Finally, keep in mind that not everything in the course you will choose will be interesting and nice, there will be boring modules that you HAVE to attend and do coursework on them, as well as exams. I know this is quite obvious, but i'm telling you so that you can search more about each module before you choose the course, so that you don't end up enjoying only 1 or 2 out of 4 or 5 modules (happened to me last year).

 

If I were you, I would choose Software  Engineering since it's a more generic degree and you can follow many different paths from it, so even if you change your opinion about game engineering, you can find a different job.

 

Good luck.

Edited December 7, 2016 by An4rchy

[AccessDenied]

You shouldn't be laughing.

A game designer has absolutely nothing to do with a game developer.

No you didn't get why i laugh. You probably don't know alextoti i guess

i don't laugh about gamedesigner thing. This guy want people work for him for free so he make a greek game and be rich

and 3 months ago he had his own project and the timeline was like

 

1. renamed build.xml into buildproject.xml  

 

xD anyway

[Tryskell]

You don't need a bachelor to code on L2J, as said Anarchy I'm a good exemple of someone who didn't study informatics at school, but can manage almost any aspect of L2J. I simply took a lot of time.

 

The thing is, have you some talent in either domain (coding skills, logic mind, etc) and do you think you can find a job with that ? Because it's cool to make a gaming informatic school, but if behind you don't find a job on that really specific area which is gaming, your dreams will be rekted hard because you will be forced to make awesome Excel/Access automatized sheets or shit code all day (because what you ask to a paid developer is to shit code 24/7, far to "play" your own game).

 

University simply gives you tools to achieve your work, methods, conventions, etc. Experience can't be gained by university alone, and that's true for strictly any job. You can have the best teaching out there, if your stages suck, then you got no experiences.

 

Not sure specifically about your country, but here in France a dude who codes won't be able to make game design (the reverse was maybe true 50y ago, not anymore). Simply "because". So, all in one, everything depends about what you want to do with that... Make your own business / code your own games ? Try to enter in Blizzard / Activision / Ubisoft / etc ?

 

If your point is to make your own games, it's far better to be able to code, because you will know what is possible and what isn't, unlike game designers which can only "daydream" and are stucked to ask to a coder if their stuff is doable or not. But can you make a living from your own games ? That's another point. Games become more and more complex, even with stuff like Unity. If your point is to join a big company then you must be able to "shit" tons of codes as fast as possible.

 

And India is full of developer genius which cost strictly nothing.

Edited December 8, 2016 by Tryskell

[Re1d]

Thanks for the advice gyis I appreciate the fact that you take your time to read and reply on my topic.

 

I truly want to learn how to code so I enrolled myself to do a bachelors degree on software engineer.

 

Hopefully I'll get in since it's quite competitive here in Sydney(Australia) and all will go well .

[An4rchy]

Thanks for the advice gyis I appreciate the fact that you take your time to read and reply on my topic.

 

I truly want to learn how to code so I enrolled myself to do a bachelors degree on software engineer.

 

Hopefully I'll get in since it's quite competitive here in Sydney(Australia) and all will go well .

A good choice, if you ask me.

 

However, as i said, don't expect to like every part of the course, there will be modules you love and others you hate.

 

Good luck :)