Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Frost Changes




What does this mean?

For 2 handed frost: it doesn't seem to make a huge difference in the play style right now in the beta. I'm getting fewer killing machine procs than on live because of the lower haste, and there is a little bit less of a dps loss if you accidentally use a killing machine proc on frost strike instead of obliterate. but otherwise 2h frost is still playing exactly the same. It feels about the same as it did in early MoP when we had slower resource generation and sometimes had to sit on a couple GCD's before obliterating.
For DW Frost: Masterfrost is still better most of the time, but now obliterate is worth putting in the rotation again in your openers and when you have a lot of resources. In a purely single target situation with no opportunity for incidental cleave damage. obliterate is now hitting for about 30% more dps than howling blast, albeit for 2 runes instead of 1, but then you get the chance at the rime proc to make the math even more complex. so it will also depend on what your resources are looking like. 2 howling blasts are still better than 1 obliterate by straight number of resources spent per dps gained, but by number of GCD's used obliterate is better. I you're generating a lot of resources then it may be better to work in an obliterate occasionally. if you find your rune starved though, Masterfrost may still be the better choice

I should also note: my oblterate vs. Howling blast testing was in my masterfrost gear. It's possible that with more haste/crit gear, and gemming for strength that obliterate could just straight up be better than howling blast. I'll do some more testing with it. Right now though 2H frost is doing higher dps than DW anyways, so that is something else to consider for 6.0 if you're currently masterfrost.



Blood Changes




What does this mean?

There are a lot of massive changes to Blood DK's but none of it really drastically affects our "rotation" it's mostly changes in the "feel" of the class, how we're gearing, and how we scale for certain fights/situations. Self healing has been completely gutted, but in it's place our self shielding has been considerably buffed. If anything we will come out of this as stronger raid tanks for cutting edge progression, but it will be a lot more difficult to solo old content (or last tier raid bosses as some of us do to show off) and questing by pulling 20 mobs and aoe'ing them down,
  • Rune strike is gone, so now our only RP spam is Death Coil. Death Coil costs more RP so you won't be able to spam it as often, but it's just a 1:1 ability swap so this isn't going to add anything drastically new or complex to your tank rotation.
  • Heart Strike is also gone, but in it's place we'll basically just be spamming blood boil now. There is some utility that comes into play with the blood runes, as Soul Reaper, Rune Tap, and Strangulate also use blood runes. but most of the time we'll now be spamming blood boil. Both Blood Boil and Soul Reaper increase the healing of you next Death Strike by 20%.
  • Avoidance has not been removed completely. 1% Critical Strike now gives DK's 1% Parry. In 5.4 we stacked parry to gain more crit. now if we want we can just stack crit to gain more parry. It's worth noting, I don't know at the moment how viable of an option this will be, but almost all of my avoidance tank gear turned into Crit/Mastery. and my rings/neck became either crit/armor or mastery/armor. So if you're avoidance stacking now, you'll be crit stacking when 6.0 drops.
  • Self healing has been nerfed quite a bit, but shielding has been buffed to take its place. What this means is that in a party or raid setting, our relative survivability has not been greatly changed if there is a healer topping us off. however if you sometimes show up 10min early to raid to solo the trash, it's going to be a lot harder now. DK tanking is like a constant Malkorok fight now, you can keep loading up the shield, but it's a lot harder to heal your actual health pool.
  • Death strike now scales with Attack power, but it also scales with 'Resolve'. If I deathstrike on a target dummy with 587 ilvl, I'm healing myself for about 11k. taking off just 3 pieces of gear I heal for 7k. so there is considerable scaling to the healing portion of death strike based on attack power.
  • In addition to the above we have a new passive ability resolve. Death strike used to heal for 20% of the damage taken in the last 5 seconds. that has been removed and instead we have resolve. Resolve still increases based on the amount of damage we've taken in the last 5 seconds, and it gives a % increase to self heals and absorbs of all abilities. just pulling some random trash my reslove quickly scaled to almost 200%. however it's worth noting after killing the trash pack my HP had dropped about 20k (down to 115k from 135k) but I had about a 50k shield on me. So if you're doing things solo (lke questing), you're probably going to need to stop to eat occasionally.
  • Finally, Rune Tap is now a purely defensive cooldown. it's a mini Ice Bound Fortitude. this is another huge blow to our solo'ing ability, but actually a buff to our raid tanking. DK's largely lacked strong pure damage mitigation CD's for some hard hitting fights, and this will help us in that regard. It's a 40 second cooldown that stores up to 2 charges, and reduces damage taken by 40% for 3 seconds.
Some notes about gemming/stats for blood:
Strength = More attack power = larger death strike base heals
Mastery = larger death strike shields
Crit = Parry
Versaility and Armor = % damage reduction
Multistrike: blood gets a 5% bonus to multistrike, but you won't find much of it right now.
So, just to recap: There are a TON of blood changes, but as long as you put death coil on your bar in place of rune strike, blood will still play exactly the same way, it's just going to feel very different. You're going to have a lot less self healing, a lot more shielding, and the scaling/ramp up time of your self shielding may feel different.


Unholy Changes

  • Mastery is going to be your best stat for SoO, followed by crit. When you reach level 100 this will change to include more multistrike. With low gear your going to gear Mastery >= multistirke, then as you get higher gear in myuthic (and probably subsequent tiers) you will gear more to multistirke >= Mastery.
  • Unholy frenzy has been removed.
  • Pestilence has been removed and its effect has been rolled into Blood Boil
  • Plaguebearer is a new talent to replace Roiling Blood becasue of the pestilence change. This talent now increase the duration of your diseases on your target when you use Death Coil.
  • Unholy Pres now gives 20% haste instead of 10%.
  • AMS now gives 90%~ less runic power from damage sources.
  • Army of the Dead is now Instant
  • Raise Dead is unholy only.
  • Death Pact now heals you for 50% but absorbs 25% of max heath from incoming healing for 15s.
  • Diseases no longer modify your ability damage (Scourge Strike)
  • Diseases no longer snapshot and ar dynamic like other dots.
  • Unholy Aura now increases haste by 5% and Versatility by 3%, instead of attack speed.
  • Death coil is now 30 RP instead of 32
  • Your Level 60 talents are now based on runic power use instead of ability use.
  • Unholy Might now increases Strength by 10% (down from 35%)
  • Necrosis is a new passive ability for Unholy Death Knights. Necrosis causes Multistrikes from Festering Strike, Pestilence, Plague Strike, Scourge Strike, and Soul Reaper to also deal a burst of Shadow damage. The amount of burst damage is based on Attack Power, not the damage from the triggering Multistrike.
--Contributed by Krazyito
In general feel and playstyle Unholy has not changed very much from what it currently is on live.

If you have any more feed back please comment below. I kind of threw this togetther with a friend of mine that I know. Edited by Amnesty

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Posts

    • To manually override it you got to use command //field_cycle set_step 1 11   1 is the field cycle id for hellbound island from db (fiy 2 & 3 are the seeds in gracia sod and soi) and 11 is the level you want to change it to. Anywhere from 1 to 11 will work for different stages.     
    • SMMTG.PRO — TELEGRAM SERVICES PROVIDER   PRICE LIST ★ Premium Subscribers for Bots Russia — from $5.6 / 1,000 subs Ukraine — from $5.6 / 1,000 subs USA — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs Israel — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs Uzbekistan — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs Turkey — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs China — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs Thailand — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs Europe — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs India — from $6.4 / 1,000 subs Other countries — from $13 / 1,000 subs OTHER SERVICES Telegram Boost — from $42 / 1,000 votes Premium Subscribers for Channels — from $2.9 / 1,000 Telegram Stars — from $16.9 / 1,000 stars Regular Subscribers for Channels — from $0.19 / 1,000 Regular Subscribers for Bots — from $0.25 / 1,000 Post Reactions — from $0.14 / 1,000 reactions Post Views — from $0.07 / 1,000 views EXCLUSIVE SERVICES ★ Telegram Search TOP Ranking | SEO Optimization ★ Aged Telegram Bots (registered accounts) — from $1.9 / bot ★ Telegram SEO & Search Training PAYMENT METHODS Heleket — any cryptocurrency CrystalPay — RUB | KZT | SBP | CryptoBot & more Payeer — multiple payment options ➤ Website (24/7): SMMTG.PRO ➤ Telegram Channel: t.me/+e_DKWnC5AFw0ZDhi ➤ 24/7 Support: t.me/smmtg_link
    • 📌 FORUM RULES (Revised – Legal Compliant) Η χρήση του forum προϋποθέτει την πλήρη αποδοχή των παρακάτω κανόνων. Οποιαδήποτε παραβίαση ενδέχεται να οδηγήσει σε περιορισμούς ή μόνιμο αποκλεισμό. 1. Spam & Κατάχρηση Δημοσιεύσεων Το spam απαγορεύεται. Μονολεκτικές, άσχετες ή πολλαπλές διαδοχικές δημοσιεύσεις δεν επιτρέπονται. Bumping επιτρέπεται μόνο στο Marketplace, μία φορά κάθε 24 ώρες. Απάντηση σε θέματα παλαιότερα των 6 μηνών δεν επιτρέπεται. Σχόλια τύπου «wrong section», «request lock» κ.λπ. απαγορεύονται — χρησιμοποιήστε το Report Section. 2. Συμπεριφορά & Τάξη Απαγορεύονται: βρισιές, trolling, drama, απειλές, ρατσισμός, flame posts. Οι κανόνες συμπεριφοράς ισχύουν και σε PMs, profile comments και λοιπές περιοχές. Πολιτικά θέματα επιτρέπονται μόνο εντός λογικών και πολιτισμένων ορίων. 3. Απαγορευμένο & Ακατάλληλο Περιεχόμενο Απαγορεύεται αυστηρά η δημοσίευση ή αναζήτηση περιεχομένου που είναι: Παράνομο βάσει ισχύουσας νομοθεσίας Πειρατικό (warez, cracks, serials, pirated software) Σεξουαλικό, πορνογραφικό ή βίαιο Προσβλητικό, ρατσιστικό ή εξτρεμιστικό Θρησκευτικά προκλητικό με σκοπό την ένταση ➡️ Όλα τα παραπάνω διαγράφονται άμεσα, χωρίς προειδοποίηση. 4. Διαφημίσεις & Προώθηση Απαγορεύεται κάθε μορφή διαφήμισης χωρίς έγκριση Administrator. Απαγορεύεται η προώθηση παράνομων ή μη αδειοδοτημένων υπηρεσιών. Affiliate links, referral systems και external promotions απαιτούν έγκριση. 5. Γλώσσα & Παρουσίαση Μην αναμειγνύετε γλώσσες (αγγλικά σε ελληνικά topics και αντίστροφα). Χρησιμοποιείτε tags [GR] ή [EN]. Τα Greeklish επιτρέπονται προσωρινά, ωστόσο προτιμάται η χρήση ελληνικών χαρακτήρων. 6. Credits & Πνευματικά Δικαιώματα Υποχρεωτική αναφορά πηγών και credits. Απαγορεύεται η αναδημοσίευση περιεχομένου χωρίς άδεια. Κάθε χρήστης είναι υπεύθυνος για τα δικαιώματα του περιεχομένου που δημοσιεύει. 7. Κυβερνοεγκλήματα & Επιβλαβείς Πρακτικές Απαγορεύεται αυστηρά: Hacking, DDoS, flooding, botnets, booters Οδηγίες, εργαλεία ή καθοδήγηση για παράνομες ψηφιακές επιθέσεις Αναζήτηση ή πώληση τέτοιων υπηρεσιών 8. Υπογραφές (Signatures) Μέγιστο μέγεθος: 800x300 pixels. Υπογραφές που παραβιάζουν τους κανόνες αφαιρούνται. 9. Λογαριασμοί & Ασφάλεια Ένας λογαριασμός ανά χρήστη. Κλεμμένοι, κοινόχρηστοι ή πολλαπλοί λογαριασμοί απαγορεύονται. Το forum διατηρεί το δικαίωμα άμεσης διαγραφής λογαριασμών. 10. Σεβασμός προς το Staff Υποτίμηση, απειλές ή προσβολές προς staff δεν γίνονται ανεκτές. Για διαφωνίες ή παραβάσεις χρησιμοποιήστε το Report Section. LEGAL POLICY (Updated – Strict Compliance) 1. Νομιμότητα Περιεχομένου Απαγορεύεται κάθε περιεχόμενο που: Παραβιάζει νόμους ή κανονισμούς Παραβιάζει copyright ή intellectual property Προωθεί παράνομες οικονομικές, τραπεζικές ή επενδυτικές υπηρεσίες Σχετίζεται με απάτη, phishing, money laundering 2. DMCA – Copyright Protection Το forum συμμορφώνεται πλήρως με τον DMCA. Έγκυρες αναφορές οδηγούν σε άμεση αφαίρεση περιεχομένου. Επαναλαμβανόμενες παραβιάσεις = μόνιμος αποκλεισμός. 3. AML / Financial Compliance Απαγορεύεται περιεχόμενο σχετικό με ξέπλυμα χρήματος. Απαγορεύεται η προώθηση μη αδειοδοτημένων χρηματοοικονομικών υπηρεσιών. Δεν παρέχεται καμία οικονομική ή επενδυτική συμβουλή. 4. User-Generated Content & Ευθύνη Όλο το περιεχόμενο δημιουργείται από τους χρήστες. Το forum δεν φέρει νομική ευθύνη, αλλά: Παρακολουθεί Διαγράφει Συμμορφώνεται με τον νόμο 5. AI Moderation Χρησιμοποιούνται AI-based εργαλεία για εντοπισμό παραβάσεων. Η τελική απόφαση λαμβάνεται πάντα από άνθρωπο. 6. Τελικές Διατάξεις Οι κανόνες μπορούν να τροποποιηθούν χωρίς προειδοποίηση. Η χρήση του forum συνεπάγεται αποδοχή όλων των πολιτικών. Η άγνοια των κανόνων δεν αποτελεί δικαιολογία.   ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΗ ΑΠΟΡΡΗΤΟΥ (Privacy Policy) – Ελληνικά Η παρούσα Πολιτική Απορρήτου περιγράφει τον τρόπο με τον οποίο το forum συλλέγει, χρησιμοποιεί και προστατεύει τα προσωπικά δεδομένα των χρηστών του, σύμφωνα με τον Γενικό Κανονισμό Προστασίας Δεδομένων (GDPR – ΕΕ 2016/679). 1. Συλλογή Δεδομένων Το forum ενδέχεται να συλλέγει τα ακόλουθα δεδομένα: Όνομα χρήστη (username) Διεύθυνση email IP address Ημερομηνία και ώρα σύνδεσης Περιεχόμενο δημοσιεύσεων (posts, topics, private messages) Δεν συλλέγονται ευαίσθητα προσωπικά δεδομένα. 2. Χρήση Δεδομένων Τα δεδομένα χρησιμοποιούνται αποκλειστικά για: Τη λειτουργία και ασφάλεια του forum Τη διαχείριση λογαριασμών Τη βελτίωση της εμπειρίας χρήσης Την πρόληψη κατάχρησης, απάτης ή παράνομων ενεργειών Τη συμμόρφωση με νομικές υποχρεώσεις 3. User-Generated Content Όλο το περιεχόμενο που δημοσιεύεται στο forum δημιουργείται από τους χρήστες. Οι χρήστες φέρουν την αποκλειστική ευθύνη για τα δεδομένα που επιλέγουν να δημοσιεύσουν. 4. Cookies Το forum χρησιμοποιεί cookies μόνο για: Διατήρηση σύνδεσης χρήστη Βασική λειτουργικότητα Ασφάλεια Δεν χρησιμοποιούνται cookies για διαφημιστική παρακολούθηση τρίτων. 5. AI & Αυτοματοποιημένη Επεξεργασία Το forum ενδέχεται να χρησιμοποιεί αυτοματοποιημένα ή AI-based εργαλεία για: Ανίχνευση spam Εντοπισμό παραβιάσεων κανόνων ή παράνομου περιεχομένου ➡️ Οι αποφάσεις επιβολής λαμβάνονται πάντα από άνθρωπο. 6. Κοινοποίηση Δεδομένων Τα προσωπικά δεδομένα: Δεν πωλούνται Δεν διαμοιράζονται με τρίτους Εξαίρεση υπάρχει μόνο εφόσον απαιτείται από τον νόμο ή αρμόδιες αρχές. 7. Δικαιώματα Χρηστών (GDPR) Οι χρήστες έχουν δικαίωμα: Πρόσβασης στα δεδομένα τους Διόρθωσης ή διαγραφής Περιορισμού επεξεργασίας Υποβολής αιτήματος διαγραφής λογαριασμού 8. Ασφάλεια Δεδομένων Λαμβάνονται εύλογα τεχνικά και οργανωτικά μέτρα για την προστασία των δεδομένων, ωστόσο καμία πλατφόρμα δεν είναι απολύτως ασφαλής. 9. Τροποποιήσεις Η παρούσα πολιτική μπορεί να τροποποιηθεί χωρίς προηγούμενη ειδοποίηση. Η συνέχιση χρήσης του forum συνιστά αποδοχή των αλλαγών. ✅ Σημείωση Οποιοδήποτε παράνομο περιεχόμενο δεν επιτρέπεται πουθενά στο forum, ανεξαρτήτως ρόλου, πρόσβασης ή status (VIP / Donator / Staff). 📌 FORUM RULES (English – Legal Compliant) By accessing or using this forum, you agree to comply with the following rules. Violations may result in warnings, restrictions, or permanent account termination. 1. Spam & Abuse Spam is strictly prohibited. One-word, low-effort, off-topic, or consecutive posts are not allowed. Bumping is allowed only in the Marketplace, once every 24 hours. Replying to topics older than 6 months is not permitted. Posts such as “wrong section”, “request lock”, etc. are not allowed — use the Report Section instead. 2. Conduct & Behavior Insults, harassment, trolling, threats, racism, flame posts, and toxic behavior are prohibited. These rules apply to all areas, including private messages and profile comments. Political discussions are allowed only within reasonable and respectful limits. 3. Prohibited & Illegal Content The following content is strictly prohibited anywhere on the forum: Any content that violates applicable laws or regulations Pirated software, warez, cracks, serials, or copyright-infringing material Malware, hacking tools, exploits, or harmful code Sexual, pornographic, violent, or extremist material Hate speech, discrimination, or incitement Content intended to provoke religious or social conflict ➡️ Such content will be removed immediately, without notice. 4. Advertising & Promotion Advertising of any kind requires prior administrator approval. Promotion of illegal or unlicensed services is strictly forbidden. Affiliate links, referral systems, and external promotions require approval. 5. Language & Formatting Do not mix languages (English in non-English topics and vice versa). Use [GR] or [EN] tags when creating a topic. Greeklish is temporarily allowed, but native characters are preferred. 6. Credits & Intellectual Property Proper credit must be given when using third-party content. Reposting content without permission is prohibited. Users are solely responsible for the intellectual property rights of their posts. 7. Cybercrime & Harmful Activities Strictly prohibited: Hacking, DDoS, flooding, botnets, booters Requests, guides, tools, or services related to cyber attacks Buying, selling, or searching for such services 8. Signatures Maximum allowed size: 800x300 pixels. Non-compliant signatures will be removed. 9. Accounts & Security One account per user is allowed. Stolen, shared, or multiple accounts are prohibited. The forum reserves the right to suspend or delete accounts immediately. 10. Respect Toward Staff Disrespect, threats, or harassment toward moderators or administrators will not be tolerated. Use the Report Section to address issues. ⚖️ LEGAL POLICY (English – Strict Compliance) This policy defines the legal framework governing forum operation. 1. User-Generated Content & Liability All content is created by users. The forum and its staff are not legally responsible for user-generated content. Reasonable efforts are made to monitor, review, and remove unlawful material. 2. Legal Compliance Content that violates: Local, national, or international laws Intellectual property rights Terms of third-party services is strictly prohibited. 3. DMCA – Copyright Policy The forum complies fully with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Valid takedown requests result in prompt content removal. Repeat copyright offenders will be permanently banned. 4. AML – Anti-Money Laundering Prohibited content includes: Money laundering schemes or instructions Fraud, scams, or financial manipulation Promotion of unlicensed or illegal financial services The forum cooperates with authorities when legally required. 5. FCS – Financial & Compliance Services The forum does not provide financial, investment, or legal advice. Promotion of unregulated banking, investment, or financial services is forbidden. 6. Privacy & GDPR Publishing personal data of others is prohibited. Sharing private communications without consent is forbidden. The forum operates in compliance with GDPR regulations. 7. AI-Assisted Moderation Automated and AI-based tools may be used to detect violations. All enforcement actions involve human review. 8. Final Provisions Policies may be updated without prior notice. Continued use of the forum constitutes acceptance of all rules. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse. PRIVACY POLICY – English Version This Privacy Policy explains how the forum collects, uses, and protects user data, in accordance with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR – EU 2016/679). 1. Data Collection The forum may collect the following data: Username Email address IP address Login timestamps User-generated content (posts, topics, private messages) No sensitive personal data is intentionally collected. 2. Use of Data Data is used solely for: Forum operation and security Account management Improving user experience Preventing abuse, fraud, or illegal activity Legal and regulatory compliance 3. User-Generated Content All content posted on the forum is created by users. Users are solely responsible for any personal data they choose to publish. 4. Cookies Cookies are used only for: Session management Essential functionality Security purposes No third-party advertising or tracking cookies are used. 5. AI & Automated Processing The forum may use automated or AI-assisted tools to: Detect spam Identify rule violations or illegal content ➡️ All enforcement decisions are subject to human review. 6. Data Sharing Personal data is: Not sold Not shared with third parties Except where required by law or competent authorities. 7. User Rights (GDPR) Users have the right to: Access their personal data Request correction or deletion Request restriction of processing Request account deletion 8. Data Security Reasonable technical and organizational measures are implemented to protect data. However, no online platform can guarantee absolute security. 9. Policy Updates This policy may be updated at any time without prior notice. Continued use of the forum constitutes acceptance of the updated policy. ✅ Final Note If you have concerns regarding privacy or data protection, please contact the forum administration. ✅ Important Notice Illegal content is not allowed anywhere on the forum, regardless of user role, status, or access level.
    • Hello everyone, This topic has been created to report any content that is considered illegal under applicable law or in violation of the forum rules. This includes, but is not limited to: Illegal software (pirated, cracked, or unauthorized software) Copyright-infringing material Malware, viruses, or any harmful code Scams, fraud, phishing attempts, or impersonation Illegal banking or financial services Money laundering activities or related instructions Any other illegal, unethical, or rule-violating activity — you name it If you encounter any such content, please report it here so it can be reviewed and removed promptly. Legal Disclaimer All content published on this forum is created and posted by its users. The forum administration does not take responsibility for user-generated content. However, we make every reasonable effort to monitor, review, remove, and maintain the forum by deleting illegal or rule-violating content as soon as it is reported or identified. By using this forum, you acknowledge and agree to these terms.     Moderator Notice We would like to inform all users that we are currently developing a custom AI-powered API tool that will assist our moderation team in scanning the forum database for illegal or rule-violating activity. This system will be used strictly as a support tool to help identify potentially problematic content, which will then be reviewed by human moderators before any action is taken. The goal is to improve forum safety, compliance, and response time while maintaining fairness and transparency. 🚧 Coming soon — more details will be shared once the system is ready. Thank you for your cooperation and for helping us keep the forum clean and lawful.
  • Topics

×
×
  • Create New...

AdBlock Extension Detected!

Our website is made possible by displaying online advertisements to our members.

Please disable AdBlock browser extension first, to be able to use our community.

I've Disabled AdBlock