Xanderॐ Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I had a discussion with Seketh some days ago in msn and between the rest we discussed about the direction L2 and L2J is going with the latest chronicles. Obviously its not the medieval lineage 2 as Seketh said, but more of a Star wars Lineage 2. After some detailed search on the population decrease, server merging, game quality issues an interesting verdict came out. L2 is not dying. Infact, its blooming. But not in the West, in Asia. The couple last years, the Asian living standards has rise. More and more Asian people get access to electronic device and gaming machines. Gamers are being born by the thousand in Asia. The difference between us and them, is that we got a more mature culture in gameing since we've been in the games far more than them. The classic American/European player demands a better more sophisticated gameplay. While the asian, still in his early stage of gaming gets excited by flashy fireworks. So the real deal is that NCSoft is just targeting the market that brings them more money. If the Asian market likes the Freya/hi5/Destruction era, NCSoft will move the game towards that direction cause their market is far bigger than ours ( if not yet, it soon will be , we are talking about Billions of people in Asia ). NCWest is not a gaming company, its a shop. It cant produce games so its merelly following what NCSoft is doing. And what NCSoft is doing, is feeding the needs of their biggest gold mine, the Asian Market. Hope that helps you understand why L2 is now what it used to be 5 years ago. NCSoft is not stupid, it didnt kill its game. It made it appealing to the Millions .... and the Billions ... of players that reside in Asia and have different play style and culture than us. That by itself rises many questions about what will we do. Should l2j devs in general keep up with a game that is now a culturally "Asian game" ? And whats the point of that when our target group is the West ? Develop an Asian game for Western people ? Maybe its the time we need to divert from what NCSoft is doing. Yes i mean going custom to provide a game mod more similar to the Europian/American likes of gameplay. Have a nice day :) Quote
donfromromania Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 u are absolutely right , european hate new starwars lineage . Quote
Steven7 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 thats why we don't see asians private servers and only west/europe one they like official as it is ppl don't like, make own 1 that they may like Quote
donfromromania Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 yea , will be good ideea to make another client for europa . Quote
Reptant_ Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 We already knew this :P absolutely right.. Quote
L2nusia Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 They wont, already we have situation that newer client makes game easier and easier... Best chronicle was C4. But there is no good servers left... Quote
donfromromania Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 only private servers keep lineage alive in Europe ... but custom features ruins most of them . Quote
sparkling Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 I had a discussion with Seketh some days ago in msn and between the rest we discussed about the direction L2 and L2J is going with the latest chronicles. Obviously its not the medieval lineage 2 as Seketh said, but more of a Star wars Lineage 2. After some detailed search on the population decrease, server merging, game quality issues an interesting verdict came out. L2 is not dying. Infact, its blooming. But not in the West, in Asia. The couple last years, the Asian living standards has rise. More and more Asian people get access to electronic device and gaming machines. Gamers are being born by the thousand in Asia. The difference between us and them, is that we got a more mature culture in gameing since we've been in the games far more than them. The classic American/European player demands a better more sophisticated gameplay. While the asian, still in his early stage of gaming gets excited by flashy fireworks. So the real deal is that NCSoft is just targeting the market that brings them more money. If the Asian market likes the Freya/hi5/Destruction era, NCSoft will move the game towards that direction cause their market is far bigger than ours ( if not yet, it soon will be , we are talking about Billions of people in Asia ). NCWest is not a gaming company, its a shop. It cant produce games so its merelly following what NCSoft is doing. And what NCSoft is doing, is feeding the needs of their biggest gold mine, the Asian Market. Hope that helps you understand why L2 is now what it used to be 5 years ago. NCSoft is not stupid, it didnt kill its game. It made it appealing to the Millions .... and the Billions ... of players that reside in Asia and have different play style and culture than us. That by itself rises many questions about what will we do. Should l2j devs in general keep up with a game that is now a culturally "Asian game" ? And whats the point of that when our target group is the West ? Develop an Asian game for Western people ? Maybe its the time we need to divert from what NCSoft is doing. Yes i mean going custom to provide a game mod more similar to the Europian/American likes of gameplay. Have a nice day :) tell me where exactly in Asia people are starting to play L2? Ok there are a lot of RU servers but.... where did you get that info btw? Quote
Fortuna Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 You mean countries like Malaysia and Philippines? Cause afaik countries like Japan and Korea have been part of the gaming scene for a long time. Quote
xenosaga21 Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 I wish a server existed with these settings .... would be Perfect server Rates: Interlude x35 120x Adena Auto Skills Enchant Rate: 60% Enchant Rate up to + 10 Enchant Rate after + 10 = 40% Enchant Rate after + 13 = 20% Enchant Rate after + 15 = 10 Enchant Rate after + 19 = 5% Enchant Rate after + 20 = 2% Buffs: 1 Hour buffs 20 min CoV 5 min Cat 1 hour song/dance Affordable donation for AiO (30$) Exact NPC buffers from L2 Sublimity Farming Zone/PvE: 1 Party Farming Zone Chaotic /Coins/ Weapons / Armor / Life Stones 1 Solo Farming Zone / Coins/Armor 1 Solo Farming Zone / Coins / Weapons No Skills on Life Stones, only stats Host: Hosted in New York so players all around the world can play with no lag.... or Texas or California Quad Xeon 24 GB RAM 15k RPM SCSI HDD or SSD With 2 - 3 Proxy Hosts at server select screen (so can choose different route to server like Renewal Anti Bot Anti Dos Staff: 2 Active Gms and an Admin Events: Double Exp Weekends Double Drop Weekend (Friday farm fest) Leveling Zones: 3 Custom Leveling (boosted) zones Cruma/ Executions/ ? Unsealed up to A in GM Shops Weaker Mana Pots Strong Daggers Weaker Necros Nerf Debuff Lands rates ( curse of doom etc....) Maybe only 1 custom armor / weapon set that is not too imba (apella) Quote
RedmanFTW Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 yes this server will be exellent...gl with it Quote
vampir Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 as some1 said, in west, players are killing mobs just to kill them, in europe, players need to know for what they kill that mobs. There is too big competition for lineage nowadays, rift, aion, wow, tera and guild wars 2 is coming, so i think lineage have got still big population and those players wont leave soon, just cool servers are missing :) Quote
donfromromania Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 but good servers are rare , and many of them are with donations Quote
lalalalalala Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 It has got all to do with most people's mindset. In Europe/America/Russia, we PvP in real life for any random flying crap that we see the other may achieve before you, try to impose our views over others, disrespect almost everything and don't even try to look at things from a different perspective. Close to insanity. Most people of asian countries have a whole different mindset than this one... while here we are greedy liars that will take any opportunity for making some sort of delusional profit by betraying people for it or whatever it involves, there they are way more of a helping type and way more sympathetic with everyone else, they like co-op stuff and play together to have fun, not to own others in shame, they respect their enemies. Instead of calling them "noob x0ax0a", they try to share their tips/tricks and will never admit that - even if you are horrible in PvP - that you suck and are worthless ingame. In other words, they care about other's feelings. If you ask me, they don't even really care what do they play. So L2 resolves around the market it got more income from, and it was Asia, so they are making a game that appeals to what they want to play. And they want to have fun, so they are making glittery starwars stupid crap for them to create evinronments where they can have some :D Both mindsets are present in both territories, but generally, that is what predomines in both territories. I would love a PvP community that would respect itself and try to get better and better, creating higher levels of play. Quote
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