[Project] L2Voyager - Reloadable, reliable, cross-chronicle.

[Kяaσh]

Revision 4000 is very old and the team has added a lot of new functions since then; current revision is 5878. As of two hours who we now have working Clan Hall sieges in our Freya core (Devistated Castle, Fortress of Resistance and Fortress of the Dead) as well as all seven of the Seven Signs Epic quests completed and working in both Epilouge and Freya.

 

Clan Hall sieges still need testing but when we are done they will be migrated into our Epilogue system. We have also recently added Krate's Cube system into both our Epilouge and Freya cores as well. But since our Freya core is still slightly unstable it will be some time before any of us try to go live with it. :)

 

The problem with people who badmouth server packs are the ones who try to get into closed projects and then when told that HTML, XML are pissant things and are turned down they get angry and say "Pack suks.. bad coders" etc. We get an average of about 10 people almost every day asking to join the team, but when we tell them what is expected of them they say our recruting process is way too strick; and yes it is. We do not want leechers or annoying kids who think that just because they can code some html or xml multisells they are pros, so we turn many people down. Some people will think it stupid that even when we do accept developers we never grant the SVN and trac access for several months and only if they proove themselves. 80% of of the L2 servers are only interested in leeching good software so they od not have to do anything and we do our best to prevent it.

 

There is no such thing as a Professional java based server emulator for L2 and there never will be. As for our lesked files the last person we caught doing it was removed and banned from our team. We currently have about 10 active coders on the team, half of which have SVN and Trac accesss.

 

Anyhow, good luck with your project and hopfully it will not die like so many others have.

Αbout Devistated Castle, Fortress of Resistance and Fortress of the Dead , BiggBoss make them and big is not even in the team.

[minideed]

I do not think he ever asked to join the team, but the clan hall siege scripts we have were massivly recoded,  cleaned up and modified to work on our Freya core.

 

We are always looking for experienced developers, but I am not the one to ask but I can suggest people to the project leader if any are interested.

[Kяaσh]

Maxcheaters have few skilled developers and one of them is BiggBoss.

[Xanderॐ]

The actual revision number was 4799, just for information purposes. Speaking about software architecture, what im really pointing out is that either L2JFree or L2DC, tend to follow the classic architecture that L2J is using. Personally i think l2j architecture lacks many things, and both L2J and the rest of the serious forks are heading the wrong way. I belong in the group of people who believe performance can be sacrificed for the shake of rapid development , maintainability and business logic profit as long as that sacrifice doesnt have a significant impant on the gameplay. And by significant impact i am talking about what the players see from their side regarding lag, spikes and crashes.

 

There are more serious things in a game server development than changing C3P0 with some new database Connection pooling library which claims ( who couldnt see it coming ... ) that is better than C3P0 and the rest pooling factories that already exist.

 

And as long as we keep being realistic aka "rare are the servers with 3k + online ", then such an attention in performance is not needed. The l2jserver is already running smooth, the holy hardware companies are providing us with lots of gigaflops and very fast hard drives. I have run myself 1050 player peak in sieges without any lags while using vanilla l2j version with only some tweaking in garbage collector plan and with very very bad and cpu-intensive code.

 

The difference between highrate and lowrate servers is significant. In lowrates you already have the necessary content developed by a whole company, that can give players all the amusement needed to get addicted to the game. All you have to do, is follow the company and improve/debug/implement those features according to retail info. Its more of a typical procedure. On the contrary, in highrate servers, where seven signs, siege halls , manors and so on have been removed, we defninitelly need new features to attract ppl since they wont play old ones. Remove npc buffer, and you get 10 ppl online in your highrate. :)

 

So far in highrates, we all have been going the wrong way also. The reason there isnt any decent highrate out that lasts long is cause highrates, remove the gameplay features designed for addiction, and do not replace them with something else. Examples as previously mentioned, l2inc. Great network mechanisms with multiple selectors ( i guess ) , faster data structures than those javolution has, but that, which took i believe lots of effort to be achieved, doesnt affect me as a player at all, in a server of 500 - 800 ppl. L2tns, another example of a good admin/dev. But i dont need 20 events, nor do i need to play chess in an l2 server. How exactly will chess ( who takes lots of time to code ) make me a game addict ? It simply wont. There is the potential out there from people with knowledge and ability, but its just that highrates, are going the wrong way.

[killer666]

I do not think he ever asked to join the team, but the clan hall siege scripts we have were massivly recoded,  cleaned up and modified to work on our Freya core.

 

We are always looking for experienced developers, but I am not the one to ask but I can suggest people to the project leader if any are interested.

 

you are in L2DC team?

ok i have to tell you much things needed to fix...

many..

[minideed]

you are in L2DC team?

ok i have to tell you much things needed to fix...

many..

Yes, I have been on the L2DC team for a long time now.

 

I imagine since you have an old release of our leaked files we probably fixed a lot of the problems you seem to have already since we have long since started on Freya..

 

And besides, you said our team sucks hard so why don't you take your old leaked files and shove them in your ass. I refuse to listen to anything you say since your most mature post was to insult us.

[killer666]

Yes, I have been on the L2DC team for a long time now.

 

I imagine since you have an old release of our leaked files we probably fixed a lot of the problems you seem to have already since we have long since started on Freya..

 

And besides, you said our team sucks hard so why don't you take your old leaked files and shove them in your ass. I refuse to listen to anything you say since your most mature post was to insult us.

 

soryz... but is not the old one..

maybe you have to search for your corrupted staff.

and fix the errors.

/do not trust anyone.

 

My opinion is just my opinion,

i tell good and bad things for this project. you are not gods.

you make mistakes, everyone makes.

 

so why don't you take your old leaked files and shove them in your ass.

 

You dont know me.. im not your friend..

grow up kid.

btw.. warned. next time -1.

 

/end of conversation

[minideed]

My opinion is just my opinion,

i tell good and bad things for this project. you are not gods.

you make mistakes, everyone makes.

 

You dont know me.. im not your friend..

grow up kid.

btw.. warned. next time -1.

 

/end of conversation

You are right, everybody makes mistakes and we are not gods but that does not give you the right to insult us by saying our team sucks. True, I do not know you and I have no interest in knowing somebody like you.

 

As for being a kid, I imagine I am a lot older than you are... I am also the oldest person on the L2DC team, so unless you are 40+ years old you should not be calling anybody a kid.

 

Either way this thread is about L2Voyager and not about you or me so stay on topic.

[Sindelia]

soryz... but is not the old one..

maybe you have to search for your corrupted staff.

and fix the errors.

/do not trust anyone.

 

My opinion is just my opinion,

i tell good and bad things for this project. you are not gods.

you make mistakes, everyone makes.

 

You dont know me.. im not your friend..

grow up kid.

btw.. warned. next time -1.

 

/end of conversation

 

I know Minideed and he certainly isn't a kid. And yes, the leaked rev. is very old, it's just that the site doesn't get updates on its changelog, and they're not obligated to do that anyway, that changelog is for the public. As Mini said, L2DC is now rev. 5878+.

 

You criticised without having enough knowledge about L2DC.

[killer666]

You are right, everybody makes mistakes and we are not gods but that does not give you the right to insult us by saying our team sucks. True, I do not know you and I have no interest in knowing somebody like you.

 

As for being a kid, I imagine I am a lot older than you are... I am also the oldest person on the L2DC team, so unless you are 40+ years old you should not be calling anybody a kid.

 

Either way this thread is about L2Voyager and not about you or me so stay on topic.

 

I know Minideed and he certainly isn't a kid. And yes, the leaked rev. is very old, it's just that the site doesn't get updates on its changelog, and they're not obligated to do that anyway, that changelog is for the public. As Mini said, L2DC is now rev. 5878+.

 

You criticised without having enough knowledge about L2DC.

 

/end of conversation

you are off topic posters now.

btw. if this is true and you are 5700++ rev i ask sorry bcs the

version i have is 4700++ :)

and rev 4700++ really sucks, full of errors.

gj btw.

[Xanderॐ]

Bump!

 

-Added Hibernate framework. For those that dont know what hibernate is, its a framework that allows easy database communication which removes the need to use SQL statements and execute queries. It comes with many features build in like connection pooling ( C3P0 integrated ). For more: ( http://www.hibernate.org )

 

PS: Since this doesnt fit in this category, and since there are many projects around ( some open source, some private, some for sale ) i believe a category about project preview could be a good idea. Not just for private projects. Take for example a guy who sells his pack but wants to advertise / hype it before its ready for sell, there should be a preview section ( like in server preview ) where the people interested ( devs/ join candidates / buyers ) can see what they need to know about the packs progress. And it can have sticky-with-payment as server advertising board has. For example each pack should have a tag [free] // [sellable] // [private] etc. And someone can donate to get his topic sticky. Just an idea ...

[Kяaσh]

Cleaned!.