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What's the diffirence of L2j and l2off

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I have a big question what is the diffirence of L2j and l2off

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http://www.maxbastards.gr/forum/index.php?topic=4357.390 see here and get some of the meaning cause you can talk days about l2off or java the Biggest diffirence is that l2j is an emulator

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off's in c++ while l2j is (re)written in java.

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off's in c++ while l2j is (re)written in java.

Here.. more simple.. impossible

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L2J

Emulator made from scratch using Java

Easy like hell to be setup (in most cases...)

Does not require any kind of super duper hardware

Pretty easy to be modified

Does not require too much knowledge

It's easier to be used (for example, admin panel)

Under constant development

OPEN SOURCE

LEGAL

L2Off

You must know what the heck you are doing

It takes too much time to change something

Much more powerful

It does require professional hardware

It does require basic knowledge of lots of things (MYSQL, C++, and more)

Much more stable

100% working c1-c2-c3-c4

Only a few people work on it but they do not share their work

It is not open source

IT'S ILLEGAL!

As you can see, we had a small conversation with pyromaker about that. At the current state, l2off pwns hard l2j, but this will change for sure... If the off c4 files didn't leak, nobody would mess with l2off right now...

Anyway...

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L2J

Emulator made from scratch using Java

Easy like hell to be setup (in most cases...)

Does not require any kind of super duper hardware

Pretty easy to be modified

Does not require too much knowledge

It's easier to be used (for example, admin panel)

Under constant development

OPEN SOURCE

LEGAL

L2Off

You must know what the heck you are doing

It takes too much time to change something

Much more powerful

It does require professional hardware

It does require basic knowledge of lots of things (MYSQL, C++, and more)

Much more stable

100% working c1-c2-c3-c4

Only a few people work on it but they do not share their work

It is not open source

IT'S ILLEGAL!

As you can see, we had a small conversation with pyromaker about that. At the current state, l2off pwns hard l2j, but this will change for sure... If the off c4 files didn't leak, nobody would mess with l2off right now...

Anyway...

so l2 off is kinda like official when they were c4 (c3,c2,c1..)

but I think that l2 off has less lag and can hold more players, but I am not sure

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so l2 off is kinda like official when they were c4 (c3,c2,c1..)

but I think that l2 off has less lag and can hold more players, but I am not sure

With the right config yes but so does and the l2j but l2off needs really pro hardware ^^

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July 27, 200719 yr

huh l2off is illegal ?

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huh l2off is illegal ?

Yes because NCSoft's server files are not open-source! ;)

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July 27, 200719 yr

L2java is illegal aswell (plagiarism). Any kind of private servers are illegal, as NCsoft says (source : L2 hp).

Since the users don't have any contract with NCsoft, we're in some kind of legal grey area (argumentation from several L2j dev-teams).

Lawsuits are going on.

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L2J

Emulator made from scratch using Java

Easy like hell to be setup (in most cases...)

Does not require any kind of super duper hardware

Pretty easy to be modified

Does not require too much knowledge

It's easier to be used (for example, admin panel)

Under constant development

OPEN SOURCE

LEGAL

L2Off

You must know what the heck you are doing

It takes too much time to change something

Much more powerful

It does require professional hardware

It does require basic knowledge of lots of things (MYSQL, C++, and more)

Much more stable

100% working c1-c2-c3-c4

Only a few people work on it but they do not share their work

It is not open source

IT'S ILLEGAL!

As you can see, we had a small conversation with pyromaker about that. At the current state, l2off pwns hard l2j, but this will change for sure... If the off c4 files didn't leak, nobody would mess with l2off right now...

Anyway...

incredible difference in l2off and l2j. and all.. for = game

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l2off is the best from all c4 ftw

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July 28, 200719 yr

Almost all servers are L2J now ... L2OFF Free servers are almost Dead(Since all are C4 with mods of C5). Yes much more stable but everyone wish to play on Interlude or Kamael.

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Almost all servers are L2J now ... L2OFF Free servers are almost Dead(Since all are C4 with mods of C5). Yes much more stable but everyone wish to play on Interlude or Kamael.

Best private servers are still L2off (l2s, l2x reborn)

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July 29, 200719 yr

well, we are going off-topic.

the question has been answered.

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Is L2J's gameserver security indefinitelly compromised ?

It's very easy to call everyone an AI slop vibe coder nowadays when they disagree with you. Let me educate you a bit on the history of Java emulation of Lineage 2 to make my point clearer.

L2J took a very bad turn around 2010.

Around that date, most of people people who were capable programmers that created L2J and L2JFree simply for fun, were starting to get replaced by people who were primarily server-owners or paid-developers who simply wanted either recognition or to steer the project towards personal agendas.

A lot of the L2JServer code got rewritten back then, by so called "senior developers" who decided to "move things to the Datapack" and other niche ideas. This "rewrite" of older code lead to the introduction of most exploits that work today and that AI keeps finding.

For example, around that time, Zoey76 who was leading L2JServer decided to rewrite the favourites module of the community board. That code was perfectly fine, and he rewrote it in a very bad way that introduced a memory leak that can be triggered by a malicious user that can lead to OOM on the server. A lot of packs who forked from L2JServer both private and public have this issue nowadays.

Generally the quality of the developers after 2010 went down because most of these people were qualified asslickers and not qualified developers.

The same rewrite era led to the introduction of a nasty adena dupe exploit that is currently working in many servers using re-bidding from a clan leader that changed a clan and then cancelling the bit. This was fixed, new developers regressed it.

And it's not just the era of L2JServer's 2010+ years. Later on Mobius took control of the scene and he has done a lot of such mistakes too. And it's not just open source. L2Scripts, check the 2020 leak, you can craft manor packets to plant baium rings instead of crops. aCis has messed up zone system, you can become invulnerable in multiple ways and nobody can kill you too. I can go on and on about how insecure ALL the packs are.

"But if you point an AI to the code it will tell you the security issues". Note quietly. AI is a reflection of your skills, if you dont know where to look, how to look, how the mechanics of the code work it wont find anything. There are people who use AI and people who CAN USE AI. It's different.

The reality is for someone who knows what he is doing and an AI agent, it's easy to "demote" the security of all these decent packs to "mediocre".

In some months I'm planning to open a server of my own. I'm terrified to the idea of not knowing all my security vulnerabilities and of a hacker who can come and TRASH it for fun ...

These are existing risks for all of us, that a lot of you dont seem to be taking under consideration ...

By aguy · 11 minutes ago11 min
Is L2J's gameserver security indefinitelly compromised ?

It couldn't have been explained better.
People who consider themselves senior developers because they know how to write text to an AI, whose QA is simply to jump in and see if it works without understanding the actual mechanics or what they entail, is frustrating.
Furthermore, treating developers as if they're nothing because AI can do the same things we do is simply ridiculous.
Imagine you have to create a recipe for a contest and you have zero cooking experience, and your opponent is a professional chef. Even using AI, the odds of winning are low. The same applies here.

By rexen · 1 hour ago1 hr
Is L2J's gameserver security indefinitelly compromised ?

@aguy For me, its not sad at all. Developers are finally saved to write whatever they want, however they want, since apparently anyone can build anything nowadays.

People like you take a codebase built through years of blood, sweat, and tears, dismiss the developers behind it, and then complain when exploits and vulnerabilities aren't fixed because ai told them that needs fixing.

Do you even comprehend what it takes to maintain an open source ? Do you have any idea how many clueless people are flooding projects with dozens of pull requests every day, many of which contain ai generated hallucinations ?

Do you understand what it takes for a developer to read, review, test, and fully understand ai slop proposed fix before blindly merging it into production ?

Imagine driving a bus with 20+ people constantly telling you how to press the pedals, steer the wheel, and make turns when none of them even has a drivers license because ai told them how a bus should be driven.

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