figure Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 Hello. Those last months i've just noticed that lot of MxC Members use as a Signature "Looking 4 Serious L2J Project" In my opinion thats really annoying and also i dont think that when someone creates a custom NPC/buffer/shop etc then he can be called as a L2j Developer Btw im not a "L2 Java Developer" Too Today i've saw a new member adding as his signature the phrase "Looking For Serious L2JProject bla bla bla..." so i've decided to ask and then prove to myself that those guys are tottaly ammateurs SO i PM'ed a guy [i've nothing personal with him,i just choosed a random guy with that signature] His Forum Name "L2UltimateGamers" so i lied to him and i told him that im looking for proffesional developers to open a serious L2j server and here is our conversation: hogndd says: so hogndd says: we are looking for proffesional hogndd says: developers MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: look hogndd says: we are just opening hogndd says: a serious server hogndd says: 18GB RAM MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: ok hogndd says: 100MBPS Upload speed MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: i will help!!! MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: ok tell me hogndd says: we need first hogndd says: python scripts for few quests MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: ye... hogndd says: and we need to change few things via compile MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: u will open java / off hogndd says: java server MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: okay tell me MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: what u server need to be hogndd says: it will be a RPG MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: PvP / RPG / Faction / High / Low hogndd says: x7 MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: oh ok MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: u have the pack hogndd says: it can handle about 12-14k ppl [ ;D ;D ;D] MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: okay MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: the pack is ready hogndd says: almost done hogndd says: so here i need your help as you are a proffesional developer MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: what missing hogndd says: some python scripts you gonna made and some java patches MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Patch To Login ? hogndd says: no... hogndd says: java patches,not system patch again with eclipse MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: look man MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: i Made Only : Client Moding / And Java Developing hogndd says: Yeah MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Nothing Else I Make Preconfigures hogndd says: Java Developing hogndd says: is not only making preconfigured packs and making custom NPC's,im sure you know that as a Pro Dev MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: The Best I Doing Is Making Packs And The Best NPC's hogndd says: if you dont know java compile and making patches,then you dont know java developing MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: The Best Evil Collection 08 as can u see.... hogndd says: java developing is not only making custom NPC's MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: i know man but i tell you i make much thing MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Client Moding And I'm Working For L2j Free hogndd says: we do not care about client modding,we need only java core moddifications MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Then I Cant Help I help Only People Who Pay I'm Not A Simple Developer hogndd says: kidding me right? MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: That Packs I Made Are For Fun! hogndd says: then why you have a signature Looking for SERIOUS MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: All In MxC I Made Are For Fun! MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: For Serious MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: I Help hogndd says: this is a serious project MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: To L2 Elixir The Pay Me 200€ For Make Them Some Things hogndd says: like? MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Man MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: You Making Java! MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: That's Not Serious!! hogndd says: are you kidding me? MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Off Is Serious hogndd says: off is illegal too MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: If You Want A Good Server Make An Off Java Is For Starter Noobs! hogndd says: Then why the Hell in your signature you looking for Serious L2J Project if you think that java is for newbies MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: ok man i dont want to help java server so bye bye i have much work to do.... so bb Whatever, As i already said i didnt make this thread to offend L2UltimateGamers,i've made it to tell you that you cannot handle a serious project you are looking for only because you learned how to create a merchant shop etc etc Thanks for your attention,and i hope that the PRO Devs Phenomenon will end as soon as possible cause is really frustrating :D
xMafia Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 YEAH !! I wanted to say that ! I have it on my title on MSN !! maxcheaters is going down .. from the top to down with these KIDS! They have L2J Pro Dev and they know SH!T they work on preconf packs they just put npcs and we are ready ! A full pro server ! what the -beep- -.- ... if thats a pro what l2j , free , emu devs are .. less that you guys ??? put the damn sig off and stop saying u are a damn pro dev .. i am not a pro dev .. not even dev .. that i think i am and i didnt say i am pro dev .. so stop that before it goes along... me and 1 friend laugh a lot with this KIDS!
Stefoulis15 Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Well , You Are Both Right Guyz.... I've Seen This Thing Too.... Once, Someone Pmed Me In MxC And Told Me That I'm Noob And I Don't Know Nothing From Developing Just Because I Told Him That C7 Not Exists! Is That A Lie Or Something?? Anyway , I've Never Claimed That Im Pro Developer.... I Still LEARN. And Im Trying To Improve My Knowledge By Studying. None Can Be PERFECT. Now , About The Guyz That Claim That Are Pro And Staff Like That... I Saw The Conversation Between Figure And L2UltimateGamers As We All Can See , L2UltimateGamers Claims That L2Elixir Pays Him 200 Euros In Order To Fix Some Things... Oh Wtf?? From When L2Elixir Pays L2J Pro Dev's ?? I Think That L2Elixir Is L2OFF. Also , We Can See That L2UltimateGamers Claims That Java Projects Are Not Serious! Only L2OFF Are Serious For Ya?? Then Why You Are An L2J Pro Dev And Not An L2OFF?? Anyway. Im Bored Of These Sh1t. Believe What You Want To Believe. The Sure Thing Is That ALL Know What Is The Truth... That's My Opinion. I Don't Care If You Like It Or Not. Bye.
Versus Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 I can't understand why the hell u care?They maybe want to help is that a problem? Probably the title Serious Project doesn't fit but that doesn't mean that they wanna harm somebody or whatever.They maybe don't know much,they want to improve their knowledge,they want to help other ppl.Why u think that a server doesn't need this kind of devs?Who is making shops,etc? I don't support the title: Looking for serious L2J Project i just say that it's not ur business to offend it.If u don't need their help,don't ask it. Topic locked because it's gonna start a flame war here.
zunix Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 damn dont lock it.. its pretty cool thats somebody post that :) i totaly agree with figure i think the "problem" is many Person try to learn (its okay to learn) but they dont wanna search or read X Pages of Java,PHP and other stuff... but the true is, i dont agree with people that just can use a preconfigured pack or only can make shops that they call himself "Pro Omega Ultra Dev". for myself.. i still learning Java and other things. and dont will call myself as "pro l2j dev" @to the chat log i laught so mutch about it xD my fav. are MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Client Moding And I'm Working For L2j Free <--- you realy work for l2j free? i dont think so xD hogndd says: we do not care about client modding,we need only java core moddifications MiSteR GoNe [A-Router^] says: Then I Cant Help I help Only People Who Pay I'm Not A Simple Developer <-- that is bad okay everyone need Money, but in my opinion is Coding for fun @fakoykas let the flame war start.. because its not a reason to close it if somebody tell the truh or wanna talk about it
xMafia Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 I can't understand why the hell u care?They maybe want to help is that a problem? Probably the title Serious Project doesn't fit but that doesn't mean that they wanna harm somebody or whatever.They maybe don't know much,they want to improve their knowledge,they want to help other ppl.Why u think that a server doesn't need this kind of devs?Who is making shops,etc? I don't support the title: Looking for serious L2J Project i just say that it's not ur business to offend it.If u don't need their help,don't ask it. Topic locked because it's gonna start a flame war here. yap ok .. but why the hell they SAY PRO DEV and they dont know what java means , how i compile , how i take source code.. how can i fix a bug .. how do i use maven on packs ? and then when they find one bug they say omg omg tell me what to do .. if u are really a damn pro dev you shouldnt be on THIS FORUM! this forum has so many people with that sig l2j pro dev and they dont know a sh1t i can continue saying this all day .. just PUT OFF that you have on your personal text and signature with pro dev !
TheVortex Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Locking topics has began annoying. Let us discuss for free. Damn it. Agree exactly with what figure said.
eKoIce Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 yeah, I agree too. Thats true that Mostly of ppl Here create an Npc and they think they are "L2J DEV" => LoooooooooooooooL. Java is other that creating a Noob Npc ...
TheRuleZzZ Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 lol , what a hell ! why you care about the " fake " developers ? ok we can tell that , they are many fake L2J Developers , but we can't tell something about them ! and what about all of you ? you are Pro dev to criticism the other ? i can't understand you ~~~~ Do your job , and don't care about the others , its not a good think . I am not a Pro L2J Developer , but i trying to BE , all of you started by 0 and you growing up in this way ! Think before post ! we can tell our opinion , but don't flame the others .... ~~ this is my opinion : we can tell our opinion - TheRuleZzZ -
zunix Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 u dont understand the point. we dont flaging against them. and we dont say that we are higher then they. but if u are not a Pro Dev u dont call yourself as pro dev and try to get paid because of this title btw i heard vent told you how to compile a pack ...
xMafia Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 i am not a dev i was never ( i am vent00za ) but i know little better from those who put on their sigs l2j pro dev and when i ask them via msg to show me his skills in java he say to me "fuck off idiot go learn to compile " wha the hell ?? if all of them were l2j pro devs they shouldnt stay here .. whole mxc doesnt deserve help .. of these kids ... put your title off that you are l2j pro dev and stop flaming on msn because u think you are god and u are sh1t and only .. even my grandma knows better ... about if i care.. i care.. i stoped sharing helping for that ! tbc....
TheRuleZzZ Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 vent00za , i accept with you , but who care for them ! LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT ! this was my opinion
zunix Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 was not you that got a title like that too? and shout to the world how great are u?
TheRuleZzZ Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 dude , i never make a title like this " I am a Pro L2J Dev " I NEVER DID THAT ! i don't want to spam this topic with you ! i don't want your opinion about me ! and i don't care who are you ! this topic is not for me , its generally , i have to tell it I LEARNING L2J DEVELOPMENT ! I AM NOT L2J PRO DEV , ok now ? and if u want to tell something with me , you have to tell it private ! not global , because you looking like a kid
zunix Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 : ) that reaktion shows me that you are the kid, dont get angry lol
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