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@Θάνο btw τώρα είδα εκείνο το image που μου στειλες για να σου αφαιρέσω το text. Guess what δεν γίνεται διότι το text πάει πάνω στο σχέδιο. Άρα αν το σβήσεις, σβήνεις και αυτό. Άρα άκυρο.

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@devon efages fola http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidamnos diavase kai epimorfosou katalila oxi mono apo ta vilvia tis poutanas tis xoras sou karagiozi.

 

Apo korinthia kai kerkira - corfu, pws vrethikan re anistorite toso pano stin alvania. 

Mporeis na mou peis mia me dika sou logia (kai oxi me arthra) ti thes na apodeikseis?

 

To thema sto opoio anaferomoun ito i katagogi tou megalou Aleksandrou kai i idrusi tis Ipeirou... Sosta? Sto parakato post anaferomai ektenos s' auta...

 

 

II. Tora me to gamidi to arthro sou ti akrivos thes na apodeikseis? Oti oi alvanoi eixan politismo, oti oi alvanoi isan Ellines, oti eixan kapoia sxesi me tous arxaious Illurious, I aplos oti o Aleksandros ito misos Illurios? To teleutaio psilo-st' arxidia mou alla einai episis anistorito... Mori poutsoplasmeni xusoplastelini, kat' arxin to gamidi to arthro pou etuxe na diavaseis (kai den mou eksigises oute en perilipsei ti grafei, profanos giati den to diavases oute o idios olokliro), kai mou to 'steiles kiolas os apodeiktiko stoixeio, den exei kammia parapompi se istorika vivlia, mono se arxaiologika, alla an proseksa kala oute se auta grafei apo poion eurethisan kai se poio vivlio o en logo arxaiologos ta anaferei... Kala, otti ap' auta kai na isxuei, s'to ksetinazo tora mpam mpam to epixeirima...

 
 
III. Episis, ekana quote auto to post sou giati se auto skopeua na apantiso protistos: Re xusomazema, nai, istorikos den upirkse meizon thema peri tis Ellinikotitos tis VOREIOU IPUROU  prin tin dosoun oi tourkoi stis alvanes poutanes tous, upirxe to eksis xorisma omos:
 
Tote upirxe diiafora mexri kai oso zouse o Filippos (parolo pou ginontousan prospatheies na enothoun) anamesa sto VOREIO VASILEIO tis Ipurou = XAONIA (sta eripeia tis opoias vriskontai kai ta alvanika edafi - NOMIZO o Thoukudidis anaferei kapou oti oi Xaones isan varvaroi, xoris ennoeitai auto na ginetai na apodeixthei kai tha sunexiso to flokovolismo sti mapa sou eksigontas sou giati pio kato)...
 
KENTRIKO VASILEIO = MOLOSSOS, opou o Aristotelis anaferei sta "Metaiorologika" oti ekei gennithikan ksana oi Ellines meta ton kataklusmo tou Deukalionos (eipame tote upirxan mono Ellinokentrikoi ratsistes pou pisteuan oti oi Ellines eixan istoria pollon xiliadon xronon - ennoeitai autoi pou upestiriksan argotera as poume tin POLUETHNIKI Romi me tin kalupsi oti oi Romaioi isan filellines kai kata ta alla elegan to "pas mi Ellin varvaros" den mporoun na theorithoun ratsistes...) kai NOTIO VASILEIO = THESPROTIA... Entaksei mexri edo? Epomenos den ekana lathos xrisimopoiontas ton oro "voreioipurotes" gia tous Xaones...
 
To erotima einai, ean oi voreioipurotes Xaones milousan alli glossa kai de pisteuan stin tote Elliniki thriskeia (apodeikseis oti den isan Ellines), proton, giati oi poleis tous eixan onomata opos "Antipatria", "Olumpi" ktl.?
 
"Giati o Thoukudidis tous apokalei varvarous?" Giati ito poustis dimokratikos kai gluftis tou episis pousti tou Perikleous, opote, akolouthontas panta to dimokratiko sustima kata to opoio eprepe na les stous Athinaious oti einai oi monoi Ellines kai oloi oi alloi einai varvaroi I exoun varvariki meiksi gia na tous gleipseis kai na pareis psifous (me paradeigma ton Platoniko dialogo "Meneksenos"), tous apokalei toioutotropos giati, ontas kai autos dimagogimenos I dimagogos, ithele na kanei otti kai o Periklis pou toso thaumaze... Na leei oti mono oi Athinaioi isan Ellines...
 
Loipon, isan stin arxi xorismenoi o kathenas sto diko tou vasileio alla enothikan to 300 kati p.X. pou pethane o theios tou mega Aleksandrou kai vasilias tis Ipeirou, o opoios olos tuxaios episis elegeto Aleksandros (alekso + antras = prostatis ton antron)...
 
IV. Pantos i theoria tou Aristotelous oti oi Ellines meta to kataklusmo epanemfanistikan ksana stin Ipeiro proti fora (an ton rotages "pote?" paizei na sou apantouse, "Tin epoxi ton deinosauron... Imaste magkes kai emeis kai oi progonoi mas, gi' auto skotonane deinosaurous me aktines x, eno tautoxronos filosofousane kai sfazane varvarous...") anaireitai ap' tous muthous kai tis paradoseis ton Ipeiroton pou sumfonousan me autous...
 
V. Prosekse, allo "muthos", allo "para-muthos - paramuthi": Ennoeitai oi muthoi endexetai na exoun megali istoriki varutita, afou, as poume, kai o Troikos polemos, kai ta vasileia pou anaferontai, kai ta prosopa fantasia theorounto mexri pou anakalupse o Heinrich Schliemann - Germanos fusika, eipame, oi filellines (kai oxi gamiolides antifuletistes, tourkofiloi, alvanofiloi I tourkosporoi) voreioeuropaioi apedeixthisan oi fuletikos anoteroi meta tous Ellines meso ton epiteugmaton tous - ta erripeia tis Troias kai ton tafo tou Agamemnonos... En merei oi ereunes tou apedeixthisan lathos, alla toulaxiston vrike kapoia pragmata ta opoia odigisan argotera se perissoteres anaskafes pou apedeiksan oti egine o Troikos polemos... Epomenos, logiko na dexthoume kai oti ta prosopa pou anaferontai sta Omirika epi einai alithina... Episis, edo den thumamai parapompi i alitheia einai, exei ginei mathimatiki metrisi tou taksidiou tou Odusseos kai exei vrethei oti ontos ekane kuklous se nisia tou Aigaiou pou kseroume oti upirxan, I telos panton upirksan geografikos (giati se kapoia menoun mono tourkosporoi tora)...
 
VI. Loipon, dexometha tous muthous? En merei, nai, aplos afairoume auta peri theon... oi opoioi mporei na isan theopoiimenoi anthropoi - tipota magkes ksero go pou thaumazane apo palia kai meta tous theopoiisan - I aplos eidola pou tous antiprosopeuan... Fer' eipein o Dias antiprosopeue to meso Ellina tote... Savourogamis, psiloxezetai ti gunaika tou pou zileuei alla etsi kai tou ti pei tin arxizei sta vrisidia kai stis astrapes, zilofthon, sunithos dikaios, viastis, gamias akomi kai gunaikoton agorion, kai polu eksousiastikos... O Aris, ap' tin alli, theos tou polemou, par' ola auta thrasudeilos kai sadistis (troei poutso se maxi kai ap' tin Athina kai ap' ton Diomudi kata ton Troiko polemo kai paei kai klaigetai sto Dia oti ton nikise enas thnitos)... Telos panton, isan kapoia eidola pou theorousan theous epeidi antiprosopeuan sto epakro opoiadipote katastasi kai xaraktira tis zois... Oi mazes ennoeitai pisteuan oti ontos menane ston Olumpo kai tetoia... Oi filosofoi aneptuksan alles ennoies, as poume, o Aristotelis aneptukse tin ennoia tou Aitheros I allios pemptousia ("Aitheriki uparksi" pou leme)... Oti diladi oi theoi zoun se mia alli diastasi i opoia apotelei kai to pempto stoixeio tis uparkseos...
 
VII. En pasi periptosei... Kat'arxin, outos I allos, oute i Olumpiada oute o Purros katigontan ap' tin voreia Ipeiro, diladi tin Xaonia... Loipon? Ti tha mas peis? Oti oli i Ipeiros einai alvaniki?
 
VIII: Ti leei o muthos gia ti dimiourgia tis Ipeirou? Pos elegeto enas ek ton proton vasileon tis Ipeirou, kai ezise prin tin afiksi ton metepeita Ipeiroton, diladi kata to telos tou troikou polemou? Exetos - Enas magkas tupas pou tuflose ti kori tou me mproutzina karfia epeidi eixe gkomeno, tin fulakise s ena purgo, tis edose kati sporia apo mproutzo, kai tis upesxethi oti ean kataferei pote na ta futepsei sti gi tha ksanavrei to fos tis... Ton gomeno tis ton ekopse fetoules)...
 
Poios ito autos pou ton diedexthi I ton ekthronise meta to Troiko polemo? To onoma tou ito Neoptolemos (opos kai tou pateros tis mannas tou megalou Aleksandrou)...
 
Poios ito o Neoptolemos? O gios tou Axilleos, pou afou esfakse ton Priamo (vasileus tis Troias), petakse ap' ta teixi to moro tou Ektoros kai epiase kai aixmaloti ti gunaika tou Andromaxi gia pallakida... Alla ekane kai ti malakia na parei kai ton Eleno (gio tou Priamou) aixmaloto mazu tou giati ton theorouse manti...
 
Otan skotothike o Neoptolemos, o Elenos nimfeuthike tin Andromaxi gia na kanoun tin VOREIO IPEIRO tin kainourgia Troia... Os toso sto Molosso egine vasilias o gios tou Neoptolemou, diladi o eggonos tou Axilleos...
 
IX) Episis kai oi Troes Ellines isan, pisteuan stous idious theous me tous danaous, eixan ta idia akrivos ethuma, milousan tin idia glossa gi' auto kai den eixan metafrastes, eixan ta idia onomata (as poume, "Politis", enas ek ton stratioton tou Odusseos... Ap' tin Ithaki ennoeitai... E, to idio onoma exei kai enas ek ton gion tou Priamou) kai episis o Dardanos (idrutis tis Troias kata ti muthologia) katigeto ap' ti Thraki...
 
Sumperasma: Oi Voreioipeirotes isan apogonoi ton Troon, eno oi Molossoi (opos i manna tou megalou Aleksandrou kai o Purros) isan misoi troes kai misoi apogonoi tou Axilleos...
 
Y.G. Kai oi Dorieis apo tin Ipeiro kai tin Makedonia katevikan kai pigan sti Lakonia (opou, meta apo ekato xronia polemou, ekanan eilotes tous Axaious me tous opoious sunoreuan)...

 

Kai meta mou skas muti me ena arthro pou anaferei oti stin Illuria oi Kerkuraioi polu argotera idrusan tin Epidamno... Se ti akrivos paei enantia sta epixeirimata mou auto?

 

Kai opos ego exo xerakia kai grafo na afiseis kai su ti psoli tou arapi pou sou gamaei to laruggi kai na piaseis to pliktrologio na mou anaptukseis ta dika sou epixeirimata, anti na paratheteis epixeirimata allon meso arthron epeidi nomizeis apodeiknuoun ta anuparkta dika sou... Ta opoia den exo katalavei kan se poio sumperasma aposkopoun...

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