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Do you want L2/LOL Moderators back or Gaming Moderator Ranks?
Cristine replied to Maxtor's topic in Votes/Polls Area
Gaming moderators have to know about all games so can be active at their sections. Right now i dont think that gaming moderators knows about all the games they have privileges. I think the first option is better, because is not general gaming is about something specific and as fanky said activity will rise. -
The League Championship Series Summer Split is fast approaching and the stakes are higher than ever as the top teams from NA and EU will earn a trip to the League of Legends World Championship later this year. The split begins June 12, so we're taking a look back at standout teams and players from the Spring Split, Spring Playoff, Summer Promotion and All-Star event. The GGU and Vulcun Breakout From beginning to end in the NA Spring Split, the standings stayed stratified between the longstanding pro teams and the new kids on the block. Despite their best efforts, Good Game University, Team MRN, compLexity and Vulcun TechBargains couldn't crack the glass ceiling that Curse, Dignitas, TSM Snapdragon and CLG erected over them. Despite this, Good Game University and Vulcun TechBargains squeaked their way into the Spring Playoff leaving both teams with one last shot to assert themselves over the incumbents. Vulcun and GGU were never favored to win the playoff, so their first round victories over CLG and Dignitas respectively shocked the community and forced the two heavyweight teams to fight for their livelihood in the Summer Promotion Tournament. Vulcun went on to snatch third place from Curse while GGU snagged second after falling to TSM in a taut five game series. Though a bottom four team didn't climb to the tip-top of the mountain this past spring, it's clear these teams are shaking up the standings. Bjergsen and WildTurtle give their teams a mid-season jolt Bjergsen, mid-laner for the Ninjas in Pyjamas (then named the Copenhagen Wolves), found himself disqualified for the first two weeks of the season because of age restrictions. One week after his return (and birthday), his Syndra picked up the first Pentakill of the EU LCS and led the Ninjas to their first victory. Though the Ninjas disappointed in the EU Spring Playoff and dropped into relegation, they fought their way back into the LCS and are now prepping for the Summer Split and a renewed shot at the World Championship. WildTurtle made an equally immediate impact when he subbed in as TSM's AD carry in week 6. He joined as a replacement, but a Pentakill in his first LCS game went a long way to making him a permanent fixture on the TSM roster. Previously, TSM had been unable to pass Dignitas and Curse and make their way to the top of the standings, but with WildTurtle, TSM transformed into the team to beat. Teammates reported to the press that WildTurtle's hard-driving yet playful attitude contributed to team cohesion and successfully steered TSM towards more aggressive tactics. WildTurtle's contribution speaks for itself and went a long way to TSM's NA Spring Split title. Summer Promotion is a trans-Atlantic massacre Following the Spring Split, the four weakest pro teams from each region dropped into relegation to fight for their professional lives against their region's best amateur teams. When the curtain fell on the promotion tournament, only three of those eight professional teams remained, proving that the amateur scene wasn't so amateur after all. In NA, Cloud 9 trounced LCS veterans compLexity, while Velocity eSports won a five game slugfest against Team MRN to go pro. CLG and Dignitas both breezed past their opponents to rejoin the LCS. On the other side of the pond the LCS underwent a purge. Three of the four pro teams in the tournament failed to hold their place in the LCS. Team Alternate beat down the Ozone GIANTS to claim their spot, Against All Authority was taken out of the game by Sinners Never Sleep and the Dragonborns met their end squaring off against Meet Your Makers. Only Bjergsen's Ninjas in Pyjamas made it through the EU relegation wringer. Wickd-sOAZ duel decides EU top-lane All-Star Fans across the globe voted their favorite players onto their respective region's All-Star team. In most cases the winner was clear cut, but with the vote count between Fnatic's sOAZ and EG's Wickd split by one tenth of one percent, the battle for EU's top-lane couldn't be settled so easily. Rather than have a split jury determine the outcome, Wickd took matters into his own hands and called sOAZ out on Twitter for a best-of-five 1:1 matchup to decide who would represent EU in top-lane. Nearly 150,000 tuned into the stream as sOAZ clenched a trip to Shanghai by beating Wickd in five epic matchups. sOAZ's fairytale story continued in Shanghai. In the individual skills competition he beat out top-lane heavyweights like NA's Dyrus, China's PDD and Korea's Shy to prove himself the best top-lane player in the world. It proved to be the one sweet spot in the EU All-Star team's performance. NA and EU burn out in Shanghai It's no secret that the Asian teams were expected to outperform their counterparts from NA and EU during the All-Star event. The prophecy proved true when, in both of their initial matchups, the western teams ended up quickly dispatched 0-2. NA fell to China and EU faltered against Korea. This led to the matchup that many western fans were intrigued by: a head-on collision between NA and EU. The games proved as one-sided as the battles of the previous day. NA dominated the EU team, taking them to task 2-0 and leaving EU without a single victory in the All-Star event. NA's win meant they moved forward in the tournament only to be efficiently dispensed by the Korean team the next day. The result leaves the European and North American teams racing against the clock to tune up and prep for renewed worldwide competition this fall. It goes without saying that the Asian teams won't wait up for them. The journey to the World Championship begins on June 12 with the Summer Split. As before, you can catch all the games at lolesports.com, the official home of the League Championship Series. http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/news/2013-lcs-spring-recap
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Riven, The Exile Riven's Stats : Recommended Runes : Recommended items and items sequence : Spells/Abilities Sequence : Masteries : Pros & Cons : Summoners Spells : Flash is a spell that can be used offensively or defensively. If you're being chased, you can simply Flash away or over a wall and the enemy can't get to you anymore! If an enemy is getting away, and just needs one more autoattack, then you Flash up and strike them down. It's a great spell for every case and that's why I take it. It helps you in every situation. Tower dive someone? Kill them and Flash out. Big fight? Flash in and stun. Fight go badly? Flash out when the enemy team comes to pick you off. I usually choose Ignite as well, even though it has no defensive benefit. It can be the difference between getting a kill or getting killed yourself. Generally, I throw this in the middle of the fight, when I know if I can get a kill. This is great because of the DOT it deals and it kills healing effects. If Soraka wants to ult and help, it won't be as effective. If Master Yi wants to Meditate, it won't have as much of a benefit. However, Riven has a great defense against Ignite. Just Valor and have your shield save you. I usually go with Ignite because it's great DOT that kind of has the same effect as Grievous Wound. Other Options : Ghost can help you get to a lane faster, or keep up with someone after they Flash. It has a shorter cooldown than Flash does, so you might take this one over it. I used to prefer it. It's all on what you want to see in your game. Exhaust is another wonderful spell. I love this one, because it can be used offensively or defensively. Slowing someone can secure you the kill to ensure that they don't get away, and exhausting them can lessen the damage they deal. It slows so YOU can get away if you need to. I've been considering taking this over Ignite in my games, but I have yet to do so unless I'm support. Teleport is another good choice for top. It's popular, and it helps you return to your lane faster if you like roaming. It's great if you have a Teemo on your team and he places mushrooms everywhere; you can Teleport to them and gank a lane. However, I feel like Teleport loses its effectiveness after the laning phase. I don't pick it because it doesn't assist during fights. Riven's easy and hard matchups : Akali : Easy matchup for Riven. Akali is a relatively easy champion to deal with pre-level 6. As Riven, you are able to deal more damage to her early on, so harassing at the beginning of the game is key. Her Twilight Shroud is essentially useless against you because you can stun her in it. As a tip, Akali normally travels to the outer edges of her circle, so avoid attacking the center. Make sure to use Valor to dash and negate the early harass from Mark of the Assassin. Post-level 6, however, you should be careful. Akali can effectively burst you down once she gets her ultimate. A way to counter this is to stun her with Ki Burst as she uses Shadow Dance and then Valor away. Cho’Gath : Hard matchup for Riven. Cho'Gath has becoming increasingly harder for Riven to deal with. In this lane, you should be hyper-aggressive, but extremely mobile. You can deal a lot of damage to him level one with your Broken Wings and autoattack combo. All you have to do in this lane is dodge Rupture and Feral Scream with your Valor and Broken Wings and you can easily take him down. Try to keep him from gaining too much sustain, so punish him. But dodge his abilities. Darius : Another hard matchup for Riven. Darius is rather tough to deal with, but you will probably win your lane if you’re smart. He is a bit more tanky than you are, and his burst is about the same as yours. Hemorrhage is quite the bother, as well. Darius is stronger than you 1v1, so it's smart to only engage when your jungler comes around. The best thing to do is Valor to dash around and avoid his Decimate and Apprehend. It is best to keep him pushed up to your tower while you farm under the turret. If he steps within range, use Ki Burst to stun him and then dash away with Valor or Broken Wings, with autoattacks if you feel comfortable. Playing passively and relying on your jungler are the keys to winning your lane. Play it safe and tower hug. Fiora : Hard matcup for Riven. Beating Fiora in-lane comes from valuable ganks and EARLY harass. As time goes on, Fiora becomes harder and harder to deal with. She also has a far greater sustain than you. The best way to fight her is to avoid engaging while she has Riposte up. After it's on cooldown, you can reengage to deal some damage. Whenever she activates Burst of Speed, use Ki Burst and then Valor away to waste the time she has on her E. Be mindful of using your ult whenever she has Blade Waltz up, too. Activating Wind Slash while she is invulnerable is a very costly mistake. Don't use Ki Burst on her when she ults, either, for the same reasons. Ganks from your jungler are very precious because she has no secure escapes. Gangplank : Not hard but not easy as well matchup for Riven. Gangplank is alright to deal with because Riven easily negates the damage done from Parrrley with Valor. After Valor goes on cooldown, it's smart to stay safe and out of range for Gangplank to hit you. Once you hit level 3, you can start using your Valor, Ki Burst, Broken Wings combo on him. But if he uses Remove Scurvy and Raise Morale as soon as you stun him, back off. He will be forced to waste mana without doing much damage. After your skills are off cooldown, you can reengage. It's also smart to go in on Gangplank if he's out of mana. Also use common sense: don't fight in his ult. Garen : Hard Matchup for Riven. Unfortunately, Garen is kind of hard to deal with when you're playing Riven. 1v1s will almost never go in your favor if he knows how to play, so you need to rely on your jungler for ganks and help. The way to win the lane is to try to outfarm him and dodge his skills with Valor while stunning him at opportune points with Ki Burst. It's a great idea to get out of Judgment at all times. Use Broken Wings and Valor to do so. The way to win is to get ahead in CS and with assistance from your jungler. Irelia : Another hard matcup for Riven. The only problem Riven faces with Irelia is her true damage. It's best to not engage on Irelia when she has Hiten Style active. The good part about this lane is that Riven outshines her in every way. The lane will be easier early on, but around level 9, it becomes increasingly more difficult. Just make sure you don't get stupid when she has Hiten Style up and honestly, you should be alright. Jax : Kinda easy if you are smart. Fighting Jax can be a little tricky, but the key to winning is to make sure he doesn't land Counter Strike. If you engage on him at all when his stun misses, he won't be able to compete. Try to make him waste mana if he spams Leap Strike and Empower. Be careful, though, because Jax can deal a lot of damage. It's smart to Valor away from Counter Strike, so keep that in mind. Get him down below half-health before you decide to really engage for a kill. Jarvan IV : Kinda easy as well, Jarvan IV is a relatively normal lane. Don't be TOO aggressive; be patient, unlike most lanes. Go ahead and poke to get his health down, but don't go all-out in engages each time to you want to deal damage. Luckily, Cataclysm is useless against you. You can use Valor and Broken Wings to escape it. Jayce : Easy matchup for Riven. Jayce is just annoying. His mix of abilities is bothersome, and his Thundering Blow / Acceleration Gate in hammer form is what can kill you. The knockback is hard for you to deal with, and you will have problems if he maxes this first. It's just best to play it safe and rarely engage unless you have some sort of CLEAR advantage or jungler around. His ranged attacks are annoying. You should make sure to dodge To the Skies! / Shock Blast when he is in cannon form. Use Valor or Broken Wings to avoid it. Kennen : Hard matcup for Riven. The best way to win against Kennen is to be safe and patient. Farming and turret hugging are your two biggest concerns in this matchup. Post level 3, you can start harassing him, but only if he messes up by getting under tower range or something like that. Make sure you use his energy and cooldowns to your advantage. You should engage on him if his energy is at half or lower so that he's unable to use Lightning Rush to get away from you. Do the same if that skill is on cooldown. Ganks should help under the same circumstances when he can't get away. Lee Sin : Kinda hard matchup for Riven. The thing about Lee Sin is that winning your lane is incredibly dependent upon the player's skill. One thing to keep in mind is that you need to dodge his Sonic Wave / Resonating Strike. His dash and Dragon's Rage are pretty annoying in-lane. Just be sure not to engage when he has the debuff from Tempest / Cripple active, and you can probably win the lane. If you're asking for a jungle gank, ask them to come after a minion wave so that Lee Sin can't use Safeguard / Iron Will to shield away. Mordekaiser : Easy matchup for Riven. Mordekaiser gets increasingly harder to fight against as time goes on, so the best chance you have is to abuse him early game and try to get first blood. Do not take too much damage, though. At levels 2 and 3, commit to fighting him. If he starts with Cloth Armor, wait until level 3 to begin engaging on him. Ganks are crucial, because post-level 3, Mordekaiser becomes insanely hard to deal with and pumps out incredible amounts of AoE. Be smart and safe against him if you're getting into the middle of the game. Malphite : Kinda hard matchup for Riven. All you need to worry about with Malphite is shielding his harass. If you do, he can't do much to you at all. Don't engage when his attack speed debuff is on you. Post-level 6, you should begin to be careful. He can burst for a LOT, surprisingly enough, with his ultimate. Keep these things in mind, wear down his shield, and you will be good to go. Nidalee : Hard matchup for Riven. Dodge Nidalee's spears. That's all you really need to succeed here. Use Valor to dash out of the way if you need to. Let her push up to your tower, then begin pushing back once you reach level 3. You have an advantage on her 1v1 once you reach level 6. The best way to get a lead on her is to reach level 6 first, then engage on her as soon as you reach 6. She won't be able to deal nearly as much damage as you and she won't be able to take the punishment. Also, keep in mind that the best way to dodge the spears is running to the left or right of them, NOT AWAY. Nasus : Easy matchup for Riven. Main concern: deny CS. This lane is one where you should put a lot of pressure on your enemy constantly so he can't farm up his Siphoning Strike. I wouldn't roam around too much in this lane, even though Riven is great with this. You cannot let him catch up to you or get any CS. The only other thing you really have to worry about is Fury of the Sands, so be careful when diving since his ult gives him some HP. Soul Eater gives him passive lifesteal, so buy potions if you need to to keep up in sustain. Wither shouldn't be a problem for you; you have 4 gap closers. Olaf : Kinda hard matchup for Riven. Olaf can be a very strong enemy. You mainly have to dodge his axes with Valor and Broken Wings and you'll be good to go. He has mana and you don't, so this is a great advantage. Don't get too close to him or he'll cast Reckless Swing (you can normally guess when he's about to do this because he runs towards you), but if he does, shield his true damage with Valor. You should also be careful about fighting him while Vicious Strikes is active; in other words, DON'T DO IT. Using all of these strategies, Olaf will ideally blow all of his mana, and then you have the clear advantage. Pantheon : Hard matchup for Riven. Valor is a pretty key skill here since you have a lot of spears to dodge. Open your combo at him after you've shielded his and you'll do very well. Always ward against the jungler when laning against Pantheon. His stun makes him strong for ganking. You also have greater scaling than he does, and you will do more and more damage against him as time goes on. Renekton : Very Hard matchup for Riven. Renekton is really annoying because he has almost the same kit as you do, but with more sustain. Watch his rage and NEVER engage on him when it's in the red. But you should ALWAYS engage when he has low rage or after he's blown his combo, which is a combination of his Slice and Dice and Cull the Meek/ Ruthless Predator and Slice and Dice back to safety. Play more defensively than offensively and zone him out of cs. Try to freeze the lane under your tower. Be careful of his ult: it's more powerful than yours, but all of your other skills outscale his. Try to bait out his skills by shielding Cull the Meek, and lure him into activating Ruthless Predator before jumping away with Broken Wings. Ganks are really precious here, but ask for them when his ult is down. Otherwise, you probably won't get the kill. Rumble : Easy matchup for Riven. Rumble can be really annoying, but you can use your mobility to your advantage and win the lane. You are very powerful against him in early levels, so like Akali, you really need to abuse his advantage. You should constantly dash around him with Valor and Broken Wings to avoid damage from Flamespitter, since he won't be able to really hit you with it. Also: when he uses his ult, immediately dash (with Valor or Broken Wings) or flash behind him and keep on trucking. His DPS will not be as much as he needs and you will most likely win your duels. Ask for ganks to shut him down in the earlier levels. Shen : Easy but can be hard as well matchup for Riven. Shen is more annoying/beefy than anything else. He probably won't leave his lane, but he probably won't kill you, either. Therefore, you should mainly focus on farming: denying and out-csing him. He can stack armor against you, which really sucks, but that's all he has against you. Basically you should just ask for early ganks for an advantage, then stick to small harass and killing minions. Sion : Hard matchup for Riven. Keep him in-lane and away from creeps. That's your only concern here. He really can't do much while his shield is down, so use this to your advantage, and abuse him early on before his shield gets very strong. If you keep him punished in the smaller levels, he'll be crippled later on. Singed : Easy matchup for Riven. This lane is relatively easy for Riven to compete with, although many would beg to differ. As always against a Singed, your main focus is to shut him down pre-level 6 and to deny cs. With Riven's abilities, you're able to compete with him throughout all stages of the game, unlike most people. You have high mobility and great scaling, so he shouldn't be able to punish you all that much unless he stacks armor. Be sure to bait his Fling, countering it by using Ki Burst and an autoattack before using Valor or Broken Wings to escape. Valor is really important here: it's incredibly powerful against his poison. Always ask for a gank to shut him down. Talon : Hard matchup for Riven. Talon excels in bursting down squishies, which is something you aren't. You can outdamage him 1v1 since your damage is more sustained and his is burst, plus you have Valor to negate some of the damage he does. All you really have to worry about is dodging his Rake with your Valor and you should be good to go. Early ganks (pre-level 6) will be very productive as he'll only have Rake as an escape. Cutthroat is a huge struggle for you, though. Silences suck. Tryndamere : Hard matchup for Riven. Punish him as hard as you can before he hits level 6. (This is a recurring theme for most champions, isn't it?) Keep in mind that you should fight him when his Fury bar is next to empty, and never engage when it's full. Early ganks are also your best friend. Once he hits level 6, just remember his ult's cooldown, which is 130 seconds. Your main focus, post-level 6, is to pop his ult and then use those 2 minutes of its cooldown to your advantage. Your ult comes off cooldown almost a whole minute before his does, so go all out, waste his ult, and then come back before it comes back up to beat him down. Be sure to mind his crits, though. They can get out of hand. Teemo : Kinda hard matchup for Riven. Alright so this lane is the most annoying thing EVER. I feel bad because whenever I get the chance, I personally counterpick Riven by playing Teemo. He's very hard to deal with. He's mobile, he has incredible, DPS, and it's just unfun all around. His blind hinders your DPS since it disables your passive, which is a big part of Riven. His poison can completely wreck you. Just try to keep up by purchasing Oracle's Elixir when you can, and after you hit level 6, you can easily win all duels. Vladimir : Easy matchup for Riven. Alright so Vladimir really isn't all that bad. I prefer this matchup to most others, honestly. Wait until level 3, shielding his harass the whole time, and then engage on him. You'll probably be surprised by your vastly superior DPS. Don't let him bait you with his pool, and NEVER use your ult on him while he's pooled, and you should be okay. Wukong : Hard matcup for Riven. He can do a surprising amount of damage, so you need to watch out for that. His ult is similar to yours in that he has a very, very short cooldown. The best way to win the lane is to bait his Crushing Blow and then running away from it, using your mobility to your advantage. After his Q is wasted, engage on him. You should win most duels this way. If you want a gank, make sure it is EARLY before he takes Decoy. He will have a higher damage output and will shred your armor. Yorick : Easy matchup for Riven. Yorick is one of the most annoying poke champions that you can fight. He has very strong sustain, so harass isn't really much of an option here. You need to go all out on him during each engagement, but make sure you don't take too much damage from his poke beforehand. Wait until level 3 to do much of anything to him. Once you hit 6, he really can't compete with you. Just keep up your combo and be sure to abuse him 1v1 in duels. Credits to Aquilegia and me for the fixes and paperwork.
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Aatrox, the Darkin Blade Learn to dominate top lane through damage-heavy exchanges and potent lifesteal in the Aatrox Champion Spotlight. Aatrox’s combination of mobility and survivability enables a hyper-aggressive playstyle, punctuated by brazen dives and daring escapes. He excels at relentlessly pushing lanes, relying on his Dark Flight and Blood Well to evade incoming ganks. In team fights, Aatrox’s mobility takes on a more offensive bent, allowing him to dive past tanks onto valuable back line targets. Learn how to massacre your enemies with Aatrox in the Champion Spotlight, where we’ll sample the Darkin Blade’s tactics, masteries and more.
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Εγώ ξέρω μόνο ότι υπάρχουν tools, όπως jungle timer και τέτοια, hack για rp/ip πάρα πολύ δύσκολα σε τέτοιο game ... p.s το μόνο που ξέρω ότι λειτουργεί σίγουρα και έχει κάποιες δυνατότητες είναι αυτό εδώ http://maxcheaters.com/forum/index.php?topic=256655.msg2383723#msg2383723
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You have a battlenet account so you can put the key or you want the battlenet account as well?
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huh? tf obviously. And annie is op doesnt matter that she is cheap, but for 6300 i would buy fizz ^-^
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Fizz, the ultimade mid, if mastered impossible to counter dat fish
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MaxCheaters - An 'International' Cheating Forum or maybe not?
Cristine replied to BonJovi®'s topic in Report Section
From this we went even further and we lost the real point or what topic starter wants to say. Yellow people lock this topic instead quoting until gmods or maxtor check it, your job is to calm people not set more fire. -
MaxCheaters - An 'International' Cheating Forum or maybe not?
Cristine replied to BonJovi®'s topic in Report Section
I think the whole language thing is a bullsh it you have something personal with universe he may deleted one of your post or he ate your coconut, i dont know but in my opinion this is not something about the language and maxcheaters forum bon. -
So i can understand, you are looking for an account to have skin santa gragas?just this? lol
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Guide [Gr]Κακοι Ηρωεσ - Don't Pick Them, Farm Elo Gg
Cristine replied to Fortuna's topic in Guides & Strategies
Όλοι οι champs είναι καλοί όπως λέει και ο από πάνω απλά για να είναι καλός ένας champ πρέπει να ξέρεις να τον παίζεις προφανώς. πχ vayne,shaco,nidalee αν ξέρεις να παίζεις κουβαλάς το game αν όχι λούζεις τα πάντα και σε φωνάζουν useless. Δεν υπάρχει op ή μη op champion, μόνο αν ξέρεις ή δεν ξέρεις να τον παίζεις. -
Anyone talked about spam boards? :okey:
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Right back at you, you have to know me or to know you? He does that at half topics of mxc, and he did it at mine too once upon a time, thats why im speaking here mr violence, i dont have to be someone.
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That doesnt change the fact that you are spammer, and the topic you posted is not spam section btw.
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Universe DARED to call mathew spammer o.m.g impossible :not bad: :not bad:
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Ο άνδρας στο βίντεο που θα δείτε επιχειρεί να γκρεμίσει έναν τοίχο. Προφανώς δεν υπολόγισε καλά με συνέπεια να καταρρεύσει ολόκληρο το σπίτι. The Worst Way To Take Out A Wall enikos.gr
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a alhtheia, gt panta auto kanw kai dn exw pote provlhma me mdc, sorry pou htan beepia
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★★★ Cheap Riot Points - Fast Delivery - EUNE/EUW/NA - Safe ★★★
Cristine replied to mg13gr's topic in Marketplace
[gr] όποιος δεν σκέφτεται και πάει κουτουρού πέφτει σε λακούβες ή αλλιώς πάντα υπάρχει κάτι κακό στο τέλειο, αλλά αυτό είναι στην σκέψη του καθενός, οπότε ή ρισκάρεις απερίσκεπτα ή πας με τον normal τρόπο i guess. [gr] -
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