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Καλά το ping θα βαράει στο θεό για εμάς :p

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Καλά το ping θα βαράει στο θεό για εμάς :p

ase pou se 5 mines to poly tha ginei pali me pay

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ase pou se 5 mines to poly tha ginei pali me pay

Όχι δε θα γίνει αυτό αλλά σου λέω ότι στους Αμερικάνικους θα έχουμε τόσο lag που δε θα κουνάμε.Οπότε όλοι Innova και ξεμπερδεύουμε.

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Όχι δε θα γίνει αυτό αλλά σου λέω ότι στους Αμερικάνικους θα έχουμε τόσο lag που δε θα κουνάμε.Οπότε όλοι Innova και ξεμπερδεύουμε.

egw dn pezei na ksanarxisw l2...low rate idika.trww polu kwlima k dn ksekwlaw eukola meta :D

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egw dn pezei na ksanarxisw l2...low rate idika.trww polu kwlima k dn ksekwlaw eukola meta :D

Εγώ τώρα που είμαι φοιτητής ξεκινάω άνετα ιδιαίτερα official και με τα παιδιά από παλιά.

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December 3, 201114 yr

Επιτέλους η NCsoft ακουσε το κύμα των χρηστών της :)

Προσωπικά θα ξαναπαιξω L2, κλείνω τον server και παρατάω προσωρινά το Rift :)

- Χαίρομαι γιατί μπορεί ο καθένας πλέον να παίξει αληθινό L2

- Χαίρομαι γιατί θα κλείσουν μερικοί γελοίοι private με donates

- Χαίρομαι γιατί απο εδώ και πέρα private = μεράκι και αγάπη για το game

- Χαίρομαι γιατί οι noobades από Hi rate PvP servers θα είναι το κρέας ingame

- Χαίρομαι γιατί θα παίρνω pvp points AFK με απλά Hit στις επιθέσεις noobadwn

- Χαίρομαι γιατί η NCsoft θα ξαναβρεί τον χαμένο εαυτό της και το κύρος της

- Χαίρομαι γιατί απλά θα ξαναμαζευτεί όλη η παρέα και το clan DarkPirates :)

- Χαίρομαι γιατί απλά θέλω να χαίρομαι

Προτείνεται ανεπιφύλακτα, να παίξετε στους νέους servers που άνοιξαν και δεν θα γίνεται μεταφορά accounts από άλλους...

Επαιξα συνολικά στον shiren 10-12 ώρες και είμαι 50 lvl :)

Στην πρεμιέρα είμουν παρόν... 25.000 ατομα στο Talking νησάκι και δεν βούλιαξε.

Άντε και καλή τύχη μάγκες...

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Επιτέλους η NCsoft ακουσε το κύμα των χρηστών της :)

Προτείνεται ανεπιφύλακτα, να παίξετε στους νέους servers που άνοιξαν και δεν θα γίνεται μεταφορά accounts από άλλους...

Επαιξα συνολικά στον shiren 10-12 ώρες και είμαι 50 lvl :)

Στην πρεμιέρα είμουν παρόν... 25.000 ατομα στο Talking νησάκι και δεν βούλιαξε.

Άντε και καλή τύχη μάγκες...

True true. Έγινε χαμός όταν άνοιξε ο Shilen, και εγω ήμουν παρόν! Επίσης άνοιξαν και 4ο server ονόματι Magmeld γιατί δεν είχε χώρο για να μπουν όλοι στο Shilen.

Η αλήθεια είναι οτι ναι μέσα σε max 12 ώρες φτάνεις άνετα 50+ lvl. Εντελώς διαφορετικό gameplay, σωστό και χωρίς λάθη. Άντε να κλείνουν σιγά σιγά οι low private γιατί κατάντησε αηδία.

PS: Για να δείτε τι γίνεται στους servers δείτε εδω, magmeld.kaifas.lt/index.silent.php . Αν είναι Down θα ανέβει σε λίγη ώρα.

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December 3, 201114 yr

Μπήκα σήμερα. Το exp πραγματικά είναι άθλιο για Official. Τα newbie quests σε βοηθάνε να πάς άνετα 20 level.

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mporeite na mou proteinete (human) mage class sto god?

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mporeite na mou proteinete (human) mage class sto god?

Έχω να παίξω από Hellbound L2, αλλά... (Παίζω και Innova βέβαια αλλά με 4 μέρες στο GOD δε μπορώ να πω πως ξέρω πολλά περί GOD.)

Έχω ακούσει πως ο Sorc είναι πλέον ένας mage της προκοπής.

Ο necro είναι κυρίως debuffer. Βέβαια στο 4th class είναι πάνω κάτω το ίδιο όλοι οι nukers.

O warlock σταθερή αξία.

O bishop επίσης

Ο pp δεν είμαι σίγουρος. Πάντα τον είχα χαμηλά σε εκτίμηση και δε με ένοιαζε.

Αυτά.

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mporeite na mou proteinete (human) mage class sto god?

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Καλά σοβαρά κάνατε 12 ώρες να πάτε 50 ; Σε 2 ώρες με φουλ κόσμο ήμουν 41..

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egw sto innova lagaro gamiseta....

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egw sto innova lagaro -beep-eta....

Δοκίμασε να παίζεις με alt + p τουλάχιστον στις αρχικές περιοχές γιατί γίνεται της πόπης.

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hi all :D mpwreite na m peite se pion srv pezete gia na mpw kai egw? :D

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By klouditem · 49 minutes ago49 min
Is L2J's gameserver security indefinitelly compromised ?

It's very easy to call everyone an AI slop vibe coder nowadays when they disagree with you. Let me educate you a bit on the history of Java emulation of Lineage 2 to make my point clearer.

L2J took a very bad turn around 2010.

Around that date, most of people people who were capable programmers that created L2J and L2JFree simply for fun, were starting to get replaced by people who were primarily server-owners or paid-developers who simply wanted either recognition or to steer the project towards personal agendas.

A lot of the L2JServer code got rewritten back then, by so called "senior developers" who decided to "move things to the Datapack" and other niche ideas. This "rewrite" of older code lead to the introduction of most exploits that work today and that AI keeps finding.

For example, around that time, Zoey76 who was leading L2JServer decided to rewrite the favourites module of the community board. That code was perfectly fine, and he rewrote it in a very bad way that introduced a memory leak that can be triggered by a malicious user that can lead to OOM on the server. A lot of packs who forked from L2JServer both private and public have this issue nowadays.

Generally the quality of the developers after 2010 went down because most of these people were qualified asslickers and not qualified developers.

The same rewrite era led to the introduction of a nasty adena dupe exploit that is currently working in many servers using re-bidding from a clan leader that changed a clan and then cancelling the bit. This was fixed, new developers regressed it.

And it's not just the era of L2JServer's 2010+ years. Later on Mobius took control of the scene and he has done a lot of such mistakes too. And it's not just open source. L2Scripts, check the 2020 leak, you can craft manor packets to plant baium rings instead of crops. aCis has messed up zone system, you can become invulnerable in multiple ways and nobody can kill you too. I can go on and on about how insecure ALL the packs are.

"But if you point an AI to the code it will tell you the security issues". Note quietly. AI is a reflection of your skills, if you dont know where to look, how to look, how the mechanics of the code work it wont find anything. There are people who use AI and people who CAN USE AI. It's different.

The reality is for someone who knows what he is doing and an AI agent, it's easy to "demote" the security of all these decent packs to "mediocre".

In some months I'm planning to open a server of my own. I'm terrified to the idea of not knowing all my security vulnerabilities and of a hacker who can come and TRASH it for fun ...

These are existing risks for all of us, that a lot of you dont seem to be taking under consideration ...

By aguy · 1 hour ago1 hr
Is L2J's gameserver security indefinitelly compromised ?

It couldn't have been explained better.
People who consider themselves senior developers because they know how to write text to an AI, whose QA is simply to jump in and see if it works without understanding the actual mechanics or what they entail, is frustrating.
Furthermore, treating developers as if they're nothing because AI can do the same things we do is simply ridiculous.
Imagine you have to create a recipe for a contest and you have zero cooking experience, and your opponent is a professional chef. Even using AI, the odds of winning are low. The same applies here.

By rexen · 2 hours ago2 hr
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@aguy For me, its not sad at all. Developers are finally saved to write whatever they want, however they want, since apparently anyone can build anything nowadays.

People like you take a codebase built through years of blood, sweat, and tears, dismiss the developers behind it, and then complain when exploits and vulnerabilities aren't fixed because ai told them that needs fixing.

Do you even comprehend what it takes to maintain an open source ? Do you have any idea how many clueless people are flooding projects with dozens of pull requests every day, many of which contain ai generated hallucinations ?

Do you understand what it takes for a developer to read, review, test, and fully understand ai slop proposed fix before blindly merging it into production ?

Imagine driving a bus with 20+ people constantly telling you how to press the pedals, steer the wheel, and make turns when none of them even has a drivers license because ai told them how a bus should be driven.

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