[Phoenix's Therapy Room]

[ProJecT]

What about these computers? Which one is better(money/performance/age resistance)?

 

GIGABYTE GA-M68MT-S2P ~ 49.90 €

AMD ATHLON II X2 250 3.0GHZ DUAL CORE BOX ~ 54.87 €

MSI R6450-MD1GD3H 1GB PCI-E RETAIL ~ 56.80 €

KINGSTON KHX1333C9D3B1K2/4G 4GB (2X2GB) HYPERX BLU DDR3 ~ 50.90 €

 

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ASUS CROSSHAIR IV FORMULA RETAIL ~ 202.00 €

AMD PHENOM II X6 1100T 3.3GHZ SIX-CORE BLACK EDITION ~ 190.98 €

ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 1GB PCI-E RETAIL x2 ~ 378.00 €

KINGSTON KHX1600C9D3T1BK3/12GX 12GB (3X4GB) PC3-12800 HYPERX BLACK XMP T1 TRIPLE CHANNEL KIT ~ 169.00 €

 

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Let's say that I have the money for the second computer. You think it's too expensive and I can find a better one with less/same money?

 

And because you may wonder what for I need a computer with this performance:

 

1) Adobe After Effects

2) Cinema4D

3) Adobe Illustrator

4) Adobe Photoshop

5) All new games

 

Last time I used Photoshop on a computer with 2.7GHz core and 6GB RAM and a shitty GPU it was tooooo slow. Plus that I couldn't use bigger size(3x5 meters) for a poster I was creating. (Not enough memory and shits).

 

 

[Phoenix4]

What about these computers? Which one is better(money/performance/age resistance)?

 

GIGABYTE GA-M68MT-S2P ~ 49.90 €

AMD ATHLON II X2 250 3.0GHZ DUAL CORE BOX ~ 54.87 €

MSI R6450-MD1GD3H 1GB PCI-E RETAIL ~ 56.80 €

KINGSTON KHX1333C9D3B1K2/4G 4GB (2X2GB) HYPERX BLU DDR3 ~ 50.90 €

 

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ASUS CROSSHAIR IV FORMULA RETAIL ~ 202.00 €

AMD PHENOM II X6 1100T 3.3GHZ SIX-CORE BLACK EDITION ~ 190.98 €

ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 1GB PCI-E RETAIL x2 ~ 378.00 €

KINGSTON KHX1600C9D3T1BK3/12GX 12GB (3X4GB) PC3-12800 HYPERX BLACK XMP T1 TRIPLE CHANNEL KIT ~ 169.00 €

 

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Let's say that I have the money for the second computer. You think it's too expensive and I can find a better one with less/same money?

 

And because you may wonder what for I need a computer with this performance:

 

1) Adobe After Effects

2) Cinema4D

3) Adobe Illustrator

4) Adobe Photoshop

5) All new games

 

Last time I used Photoshop on a computer with 2.7GHz core and 6GB RAM and a shitty GPU it was tooooo slow. Plus that I couldn't use bigger size(3x5 meters) for a poster I was creating. (Not enough memory and shits).

 

 

 

First of all , the first PC is too cheap and the parts of it won't last for long (even now they are sucky , Athlon is a very old tech similiar to Pentium , they are like 10 y.o.)

 

The second one is a better choice , it's parts will last for long and you won't even need to upgrade it for long long time.

 

But the GPU you picked sucks , it's from last year plus it's a cheap model (ending with 50 = cheap , ending with 70 = medium , ending with 90 = ultra)

 

Crossfire is only gonna help you on games , and these GPUs ain't anything special or good to buy two of them , better get one strong than 2 weak

 

example

 

http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/SVGA/Sapphire-6970-PCI-Express-GDDR5-2GB-21187-00-40R.htm

 

Simply superior , it's one it's strong and you gonna spent 60 euro less

 

 

Mobo looks fine

Ram looks fine

CPU is fine

 

But don't forget , HDD plays a vital part then we talk about performance. SSD = Pure win but they cost quite much and they are small then we are talking about GBs , it depends on your pocket if you ask me.

 

 

About your last sentence , dud even if you have 9.99 Ghz cpu with 32GB DDR4 and you got a sucky prehistoric GPU it will still lag , all the hardware must be balanced in order to have a healthy PC , with the meaning of everything going smoothly

 

 

[ProJecT]

About a HDD I am going to buy 2TB or 1TB 7.200 rpm.. I think it's good..

 

What about these two HDD?

 

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.303658

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.303622

 

SSD rofl.. 128GB 220 €

 

GPU: http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.510748

[Phoenix4]

About a HDD I am going to buy 2TB or 1TB 7.200 rpm.. I think it's good..

 

What about these two HDD?

 

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.303658

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.303622

 

SSD rofl.. 128GB 220 €

 

GPU: http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.510748

 

 

HDD = Capacity

SSD = Speed

 

HDD tech is OLD , has many many flaws plus they are unstable as fk. I may sound hyperbolic but still i'm right ,  the thing you could do is : buy a 2TB HDD and a SSD (OCZ Agility 3 , 60 GB or 120GB your choice)

 

All your stuff , backup etc. on the 2TB and OS/basic programs which you will be running on SSD , imo you gonna be fine.

 

 

About the GPU , this one ain't bad but still i would recommend a xx70 series , they are closer to premium , xx50s are cheap model.

 

Maybe 6870 instead of 6850 you picked , but 6970 is superior , but if you can afford it of course.

 

 

 

[teh2]

I have 1 question.

My friend had bought a pc before 3 years...but without graphic card.

Now he wants to play League Of Legends and as i read it needs as all games system requirments.

I read that it needs 512 graphic card sth like that , i went to a shop and i ask for it ..and he told me about 80euros...is that normal??

Can we found a cheaper card?

[Phoenix4]

I have 1 question.

My friend had bought a pc before 3 years...but without graphic card.

Now he wants to play League Of Legends and as i read it needs as all games system requirments.

I read that it needs 512 graphic card sth like that , i went to a shop and i ask for it ..and he told me about 80euros...is that normal??

Can we found a cheaper card?

 

80euro for a Graphic card is pretty normal , which card u gonna buy ?

[FaCeLeSsPvP]

when i play dota and put music with wmp together i lag as hell .before 1 month everything was normal what happened?

can u tell me?

[Phoenix4]

when i play dota and put music with wmp together i lag as hell .before 1 month everything was normal what happened?

can u tell me?

 

Lots of things may happened during this month you talking about and i don't know them (installed programs , maybe a spyware , defrag your pc)

[teh2]

80euro for a Graphic card is pretty normal , which card u gonna buy ?

[gr] μπορεις να μου προτεινεις μια?Για να μπορει να παιζει αυτο το παιχνιδι?http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=14060

[/gr]

[Phoenix4]

[gr] μπορεις να μου προτεινεις μια?Για να μπορει να παιζει αυτο το παιχνιδι?http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=14060

[/gr]

 

http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/SVGA/Sapphire-6670-PCI-Express-GDDR5-1GB-11192-01-20G.htm

 

It can play 999 lols with this one , i chose this instead of a graphic card of 40euro cause you will probably gonna play another game expect Lol which possibly will need a stronger graphic card. With this one i guess you gonna be fine cause i guess your γούστα ain't heavy

[ProJecT]

How you see what's the series are? @Phoenix

[Phoenix4]

How you see what's the series are? @Phoenix

 

I just know how ATI is setting their numbers for years now

 

example

 

 

6990 =

 

first digit = generation , 6000 series is generation of 2010 so 5000 series is 2009

 

second digit = rank. the higher the number is , close to 9 , the better it is.

 

 

3=ultra cheap

5 = medium

7=pro

9=xtreme

 

the third digit is the  level of the card similiar to 2nd digit the higher the number is , close to 9 , the better it is.

 

so it goes like the above

 

3=ultra cheap

5 = medium

7=pro

9=xtreme

 

 

 

 

 

 

So this year (2011) AMD is gonna release the next generation (7xxx series) and the best is gonna be the 7990.

[ProJecT]

I just know how ATI is setting their numbers for years now

 

example

 

 

6990 =

 

first digit = generation , 6000 series is generation of 2010 so 5000 series is 2009

 

second digit = rank. the higher the number is , close to 9 , the better it is.

 

 

3=ultra cheap

5 = medium

7=pro

9=xtreme

 

the third digit is the  level of the card similiar to 2nd digit the higher the number is , close to 9 , the better it is.

 

so it goes like the above

 

3=ultra cheap

5 = medium

7=pro

9=xtreme

 

 

 

 

 

 

So this year (2011) AMD is gonna release the next generation (7xxx series) and the best is gonna be the 7990.

Kewl story bro! Thanks for the infos..

[Smok3BoY]

i am hearing sounds but not the voice at you tube

wtf going on?

[ExTrEmEDwarf]

i am hearing sounds but not the voice at you tube

wtf going on?

Have you plugged correctly the cable to your sound card?