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  1. We found out a couple of things during our grand open release and have been studying how to make our server even better. We admit our server was made for players who still wants to use a lot of time on the game and get the farm for the rewards. We wanted to make a server, to take you back when you started playing Lineage 2. Back to the days where it was just about farming and PvP, but we were wrong. Players have been farming and grinding for so many years now that, it is no longer what players play Lineage 2 for anymore. Players who still plays the game, play it for the memorial reasons. The PvP, the open world, the quick and fun momements. What we wanted to make is a server, where you can log in, play a couple of hours, pvp/farm whatever you wanna do. Not worry too much about farming, not worry too much about losing time, but rather a server, where you can come home from work/school, log in play a couple of hours and feel like you have gotten something from it. You know, a quick fun game. So follow us on our website/forum to keep up with the changes, be a part of creating a server, you want to play on. Give us feedbacks, give us informations, what you miss about Lineage 2, and we will do our best to put those moments into this server.
  2. Let's stick to the topic guys, this is not a flame post. If you guys got some personal issues take it over private messages . People are allowed to speak up their mind but let's keep the flaming out of the post. It can look bad for the server.
  3. No need to be rude Lightway, his not rude to us either, his just saying his thoughts.
  4. Dev, im talking about now, not 4-5 years ago. My first server, was released about a half year after Pride opened. Called L2DestGaming, we had roughly 500 players on. Nothing big that time, but we had it going for about 5-6 month before I got really sick and couldnt continue, most of the guys went back to Pride, after I closed. My second server was called L2Ruthless, some might know it, but i was the 2nd half of L2Ruthless before we went our seperate ways. My 3rd server L2Destruction, yes true, it failed because i still had the mindset of the old style lineage 2. My L2 experience goes back to prelude/close beta. My GAMING experience, goes back to UO 1997 and played about nearly every mmorpg that came out till last year. So overall, i got a good experience in what attract players and what not. My percentage is wrong, but i just had to give a number and its my personal opionon. What ive notice, and what i keep noticing is all those new servers opening up, "5k online, 2k online, 1k online, 500 online" whatever online they have, all disappears after a certain time. Why is this happening? Why do people leave a server? What did they do wrong, what do people want? Why play a private server, when the real one is free? Why still play L2, when theres a thousand other games out there that is free to play. My conclussion is, its because Lineage 2 is a fun game to play for a short time now, private servers are for players who loved how pvp was, not how farming was. I myself, would never play a server that had a lot of grind before i could pvp. Because pvp for me is the funniest part of the game. If you can find the key of success in private server, which one one still cant. You can make those RU classic servers, people still leave, you can make those ultra customized servers, people still leave. So what makes players stay? DRAMA. The e-peen lust. The feeling that "oh, here i am and people hates me thats why i keep playing" Playing on a server, with 1000 players, and if all 1000 players are friends, there wouldnt be any drama aka. server will die. Trolls, even when i hate them the most, criers, whiners, all the "worst of worst" are the one that keep playing? Why as long they are sadisfied, they will keep playing and they will keep causing drama. As long you can minimize the criers cry. You make sure, they can get easy items, you make sure they dont feel like they are underpowered and cant beat someone. You make sure theres a good balance in pvp.
  5. Private servers feeds off the drama and all the crying. Because everyone knows it's a private server and there's tons of them. So they know if they aren't satisfied they will move to the next. What I've notice is like games such LoL/Dota/Smite and other games who has a "short" game time. They live off the drama and that's why players come back, it's a quick game with drama, they can enjoy their 1 hour pvp and then leave if they want to. Sadly I think L2 private servers work the same way now There's 2 types of players in l2. Player 1. Farms, enjoys the game, gets geared and then wait to pvp. 10% of a server. Player 2. Joins, farms for 2 seconds, gets bored, gets owned by player 1. Cries about the farm is too hard, the classes are unbalance, claiming they're the God of Pvp, l2 and know everything about l2. Those guys quit. But they are 90% of a server
  6. What we did, was actually releasing things in steps, we made it so new comers didn't have to enchant gear to be able to compete with the top players. Yes our farm system was hard because we wanted players to fool around and do more than just farming. The issue with lineage 2 now, is its indeed and old game and not many wants to spend their 2-3 hour a day farming for better gear. So we are doing a huge makeover on how to get items and how to enchant items. What we want was a server where you could log in and not worry about being left outside because you couldn't farm. It worked as intended but it was too hard for players who was using zodiac to see players in dragon slayer gear and felt they were "left behind" because of the farm. But truth is they weren't really behind. A fully geared zodiac player could do a huge amount of dmg to any higher tiers. But people don't wanna learn new things from l2, they want to play what they are used to. People wants to be able to solo everything without having to worry about being in a party. The only time they wants parties is when they pvp. So overall conclusions we are solving 85% of the issues we have on the server. The last 15% can't be solve since its a personal aspect of the game
  7. I respect Dav for his work, so I will not make another pride copy, his legend on his own and making copies of it without even touching it is just respectless for his work.
  8. @whitechoco it all depends on how you look at it, I know I can never make a 100% unique server without having to code everything from scratch myself. But what makes the servers all over the place unique is its game and playstyle. If you think about it, we are playing an old game and nothing can be more unique because it's still based off lineage 2. I think you would have to make some drastically changes, such as custom character and classes, even character modifications and create your own monsters, texture wise to make it extremely unique.
  9. @Dev Yeah sadly players mind aren't what they used to be back then, but it also helps me improve a lot of stuff and what I can change, the good part is I can now try to "fix" all the major issues that made the server fail and no its not because it's a pride pack, but the fact it still only attached pride players, and they except another copy of pride server which we changed and they quit because their minds haven't grown since Dav closed pride. So yeah quite some stuff need to be changed but it will succeed
  10. I work on my server everyday, trying to find solutions for every single thing. Everyone's mind is set different from their aspect of the game, and you have to find the balance in that. We did make things ultra hard because we wanted players to just play around but that didn't work out because everyone only aims for the top tier instead of enjoying it. So yeah I work on fixing on how I can do stuff better and improve.
  11. And respect for that xdem. But what are you aiming for ? I mean now a days there are so many new servers with all kind of random stuff. I know your opening aepvp and I hope it will succeed for you. But what kind of players are you aiming for ? What kind of style are you aiming for. All that is what makes your server unique and you should know. My server is not unique in its coding because it's pride, but my server is unique the way you play. I know what mistakes I made but I also know and work hard on fixing them. For me, if you don't have an idea of how your server will be, coding will be useless. If you don't put your heart in changing stuff then it wouldn't be something special and it would just be another "lineage 2 Private server"
  12. I remember when Dav was deciding to pick either l2jserver or l2jfree to start with mate. Kisha, Ultra, Zeza, Lied, Liath and a couple of more guys didn't really care back then so he kept changing between them to see which he found easiest to work with. This was before pride was made. Let me ask you this, did you code everything from scratch yourself or did you also had your source from somewhere and then worked from that point, xdem ? Because if you actually coded everything from 0 to whatever you have now, then I don't see the reason why you would spend time on a private server when you could have made your own game then
  13. And pride is based off l2jserver files. So pride pack is just a modified l2jserver pack. Like any other "release" of packs there is out there. Two source are still from l2jfree or l2j. Can't blame players for using what is out there.
  14. Now that you guys really using my post to chat in, I got some stuff I want to say too. As for you xdem, I actually don't know who you besides you are a good dev. I also remember that I used to be a GM on AePvP, CommanderKain was my name. I GM'd with Starving and a couple of other guys. But what I don't understand is why do you talk so much trash on something that you call useless anyways? I would be ashamed to call myself a skilled developer and have such attitude. I'm not pro but I do get along and understanding the codes on pride server and actually changed a lot in it. I don't have the authority or time to even call my self a pro dev. I probably work more than any of you so-called developers work in real life. Hence why programming is my free time space when I'm off work and I will never be as good as any developers who had the time for it. If I had to code the stuff pride has, it would have taken me a year if not even more. So why would I waste time creating something that is already created? You talk about using other packs are for bad developers, then let me ask you this. Why is it your old server used to have pride item stats? Such as those unique stats Dav had? Why didn't you make your own codes for it? You know the answer yourself, why code something that's already coded, when you can just copy/ paste it.. right? This is no flame, nor no disrespect. As for you Zero. I actually played with Primes in L2World. But as any other player around the world, not all l2 private servers were interesting. You guys were good, but not always the best. Everyone had their moments. Like any other game that has clans and pvp. When the top clan leaves, another clan takes the throne and that's how the circle is. Every clan have their momements, it just depends on the time. Every clan remember their domination time, but forgetting how hard it was to achieve. Funny part about our server is, even when we are using a pride pack, every pride player who joined has basically quit. Because it's not pride. Which was the achievement after all, using his java codes to change the game. The bad part about this is, players don't know how to play this style because they're not used to it xD So I'll just warn you xdem, carefull with taking skills from pride because they will think it's a pride server on the spot when they log in, and then you will get the rain of cry babies bitching.
  15. Releasing today DRAGON SLAYER ITEMS MYTHIC CLOAKS KAMALOKA STAY TUNED !
  16. InTheEnd was indeed a big help for the server, and I can't deny that. As for greek admins, I said I didn't want any greek language during admin mode, and I kinda find that word vegena fun even though I don't know what it means xD And as for you xxdem, it depends. I did open a couple of servers before but after coming back to l2 I didn't know what to except. Everytime you read some where, most servers had around 500 players, only the RU or the L2Off had a good amount still. You have to Base your game off what you think will be at start and we didn't expect 200+ after a couples of hours. But it shows that we did something right.
  17. Some see is at failed, some see it as success. We see it as success since we didnt except that amount of players on release.
  18. Servers now live. 2 hours and 130 players. Can any mod move my server to private servers ?
  19. Oh i see, lol. But nah Forgotten has nothing to do with them either. Dont even know why he chose that name to be honest :D Anyways, i did some wrong timer on release, its 6PM GMT +1 and not GMT +2.
  20. As I do not know any greek I had a friend to translate it for me. I'm not sure who this Aimor guy is besides his joining my server with a couple of his friends I take. You shouldn't be judging the server if you haven't played on it mate. As I mentioned earlier, you cannot compare this server to a another pride server besides it's coded features. Everything else has changed.
  21. Www.l2destruction.com Going live today at 6PM Gmt +2
  22. IMO. Balance should be made as overall classes, this do not mean I specific mean each class, but rather the mains, Tank, Fighters, Rogue, Archer, Mage etc. HP, mDef, pDef, all of that has to be remembered. For me, a good balance is when its something like this tank > fighter > rogue > archer > mage > repeat. It doesnt mean, that a mage cant kill an archer, but an archer should have a 60 vs 40% win chance vs an equally geared player. Every class should have a strong and weak side, and sadly this is what everyone keep forgetting because they always want their class to be the strongest. 1 vs 1 should be more focused on the knowlegde you know about the class and game, than rather spamming skills and qq, if you lose. I've seen a lot of players, winning and losing, and they would brag about it if they win and they whine if they lose, but when they finally meet someone that actaully knows how to play the class, they wouldnt admit defeat, but rather say its unbalance because they cant beat every class. Any good player should know how to fight against different classes, and not just see them as one opponent. Its like that real life too, no one is the same, you gotta know how to fight against it, you study and you master it. A lot of players know their classes, because they played it for so long, but how have they played it? retail wise / private server wise? Those two balance are completely different because of the fact that on the buffs.
  23. The "Base" of our gameplay is ready enough for beta testing. Apply for beta on our website or on this link http://l2destruction.com/forum/index.php?topic=14.0
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