Discussion Lineage 2 Chronicle 6 Interlude projects.

[mikesoda9]

I've been a lurker for many years here on maxcheaters, I've read and followed many posts about server developments, our beloved Interlude chronicle is 18 years old, a teenager, and I have just one question, haven't we fixed all the bugs already? it's 2024! how come on every project out there there's talk about bugs? is it really that hard? (not tryna sound cocky it's a genuine question) after so so many years of work on that chronicle one would expect that we are just improving things at this point, but no... bugs?!

[LordPanic]

This is my point of view im not representing the whole community.
 

Q:"I have just one question, haven't we fixed all the bugs already?"

Depends....

Free projects have still a long way until they fix "everything" because most of them have a small team or none. Trying to emulate it to 100% takes a lot of time especially if you do it as a hobby or in your spare time. Keep in mind interlude was a problematic chronicle to begin with.

 

Paid projects is a different story some of them are ok to run but the rest deserve to be in a trash bin. The difference between paid and free projects is their priorities. Paid projects focus on admin demands and to make their clients satisfied either by making mods, hot fixes or whatever while free projects (owners) dont care that much about admins they sole focus is whatever they believe needs to be done and slowly achieve their goal.

 

Q:"how come on every project out there there's talk about bugs?"

Sometimes Admins cause this bugs either by hiring a bad dev to make them things or cause of them by touching things they shouldn't.
 

Q"after so so many years of work on that chronicle one would expect that we are just improving things at this point, but no... bugs?!"

Interlude client is bad even if you manage to fix all core side problems so in the end u will still have some issues. This is why some big name servers to speed things up created their own project investing thousands either by reworking it to a decent level or by resorting to newer chronicles and downgrade them to interlude.

 

In the end you will never see an l2 server or game in general without bugs no matter how new or old it is. Some have less some have more thats it pretty much.

 

"No bugs" there is no such thing.

Edited September 2, 2024 by LordPanic

[mikesoda9]

7 hours ago, LordPanic said:

This is my point of view im not representing the whole community.
 

Q:"I have just one question, haven't we fixed all the bugs already?"

Depends....

Free projects have still a long way until they fix "everything" because most of them have a small team or none. Trying to emulate it to 100% takes a lot of time especially if you do it as a hobby or in your spare time. Keep in mind interlude was a problematic chronicle to begin with.

 

Paid projects is a different story some of them are ok to run but the rest deserve to be in a trash bin. The difference between paid and free projects is their priorities. Paid projects focus on admin demands and to make their clients satisfied either by making mods, hot fixes or whatever while free projects (owners) dont care that much about admins they sole focus is whatever they believe needs to be done and slowly achieve their goal.

 

Q:"how come on every project out there there's talk about bugs?"

Sometimes Admins cause this bugs either by hiring a bad dev to make them things or cause of them by touching things they shouldn't.
 

Q"after so so many years of work on that chronicle one would expect that we are just improving things at this point, but no... bugs?!"

Interlude client is bad even if you manage to fix all core side problems so in the end u will still have some issues. This is why some big name servers to speed things up created their own project investing thousands either by reworking it to a decent level or by resorting to newer chronicles and downgrade them to interlude.

 

In the end you will never see an l2 server or game in general without bugs no matter how new or old it is. Some have less some have more thats it pretty much.

 

"No bugs" there is no such thing.

well, damn, one would believe that having such a big community of talented people that we would be over with this chronicle but damn, I guess you're right, no ones working together tbh, I guess i was viewing it from the wrong point of view, everyone wants to make money, its not like its open source and everybody is working together to perfect it, otherwise this shit would be done already, thanks for the reply and the insights tho.

[Salty Mike]

12 hours ago, LordPanic said:

Q"after so so many years of work on that chronicle one would expect that we are just improving things at this point, but no... bugs?!"

Interlude client is bad even if you manage to fix all core side problems so in the end u will still have some issues. This is why some big name servers to speed things up created their own project investing thousands either by reworking it to a decent level or by resorting to newer chronicles and downgrade them to interlude.

 

I only have one comment, the rest I agree with. If they are well-known, it means their core is top notch and their work ethic, community management, advertising, business practices, etc are top notch too.

Assuming they were to start anew with a different core, it would mean they would have to first fix the core, in its entirety, else they'd lose their players. It all sounds quite a bit speculative and extremely superficial to me.

The best way to keep the authenticity is to upgrade, as opposed to downgrade. Making an IL core working on new client is better than making a new chronicle "play like IL", just like "downgrading" your favourite newer BMW car, say a 2024 X5, to a look like/resemble an older version, say the 2008 variant, won't make it drive nor sound anything like the original you are aiming for, unless you completely take its insides out and rebuild them from scratch. While it will probably run much more smoothly, people who love the older version and cannot stand the newer versions, such as the IL-loving community, would never be happy and outright refuse to get taken on a ride.

It is a bit counter-intuitive, I know. But people are who they are, especially the IL community. Too stubborn to get outside of their comfort zone, I suppose. Not shaming anyone here, just expressing an opinion.

In any case, now you can #start_hating.

 

Edited September 3, 2024 by Salty Mike
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