For Anyone Interested In Leaving Their Opinions

[DopeAgent]

Sup guys...

By the start i want just to say something, its been a lot of years i've been playing L2 and found with it a lot of fun doing so, spending at the start around 2 years playing the official, then moved to PS and by the time gone, played a lot of high rated PS which slowly took out my interest (as i think it happened to most of you), luckily i found around 2007-8 L2Pride, which was certainly a really impresive thing i was not aware of, and so my interest to the game came back... sadly, playing for long 2-3 years, i saw how L2Pride died slowly (by its admins, by the community, or somehow it just became boring as any other monotonous PS does), by nearly 2010-11 i started to create my own stuff inspired by my experience in both playing and programing and (by some family related problems) it took to me up to 3-4 years and a little more... The point of this is that nowdays i have finally (or almost) finished with it, certainly it is not far likely the normal game everybody knows (its even diferent to any shit and i know most fags will start spamming bullshits like -. "Another L2Pride copycat", or some similar shits but its not.), I have even modified most aspects of the client including the addition of "skillshot performing" (which im yet working on) as tons of other stuff i can not really list since it will take a lot of time, however, in the last weeks i came here to take a look and found some posts related to L2Pride being closed because of dataloss or something similar, which certainly i'm sorry of, but lets be honest, it has not much more time to stay alive, as since i've stop playing it already had lost a lot of player due to the lack of original new content and some other things that happened, anyway, atm i have a doubt about some aspects of my project and if it is worth it to finish this and put it on, additionally, i'm not a person who can afford to pay for a hosting service by my own, so it will be necessary to have donations. The prime objective of this is to hear your opinions and see what you guys think people wants nowdays, additionally i can provide with images if necessary or any other info you want to know about everything i'm doing.

Regards, and thanks in advance.

[ZaNteR]

Can you like point out some things that stand out about your work, compared to allready existing things done on other private servers?

[DopeAgent]

Well, i've made some change to the game camera, and put around 5 months of working in a proper way to allow characters to use "skillshots" (meaning skillshot is an ability that can be used upon objectives in a position without necesarily being targeted); New classes; obviously tons of customs that as i mentioned above it will take a lot of time to list all of them; some own-made gear as some other known by most players, all of them with custom effects and abilities; about a year of really hard work about class balancing as there as i've mentioned are new classes and additionaly some other have been remade to fit the server idea; 6 new own-made events as additionally the most important of these most players knows; up to 14 own-made instances with respective objectives, restrictions and rewards, all of them oriented to the team-playing; a "refine" system which allow players to customize their items by adding effects/stats... dunno how much i can list at this moment, i'm not in my house and wont untill tomorrow so then i'll be able to post pics if necessary.

[Epiquin]

Some of that sounds interesting. From a skill perspective, but from a design perspective - why make more classes? More abilities and effects.

 

At the end of the day that's more maintenance, you have to keep track of what works well and what doesn't, what is balanced and what isn't when people complain, and more initiative required from the player to learn all the new things you introduce.

[xxdem]

You don't know where youre messing into..

[DopeAgent]

as far as i see it, you may didn't noticed the part of "people getting tired of playing the same shit over and over again", additionaly, its been up to 4 years i've dealing with it working as hard and as much as i can to properly fit that i wanted to create, tho, its currently nothing bad related to people requiring to learn new stuff as there are yet the all already known stuff and classes (which may i have only changed a little to fit the server idea) and by the time passes, people will have their chance to check/test anything at their hands, and so play it or leave it depending of their style or interests... talking about the skills/effects/etc, i've started with it on the release of H5 client, i have certainly changed a lot related to the game mechanics (if these even exists) and so, it became necessary to add some new stuff, as there are a lot of useless classes which i wanted to center people atention on, and so, there are yet (as you said) a lot of stuff may i have to work on, but thats the point of this, creating something awesome that make people want to play until they die (again lol). Anyway, thanks for your answers.

[xxdem]

as far as i see it, you may didn't noticed the part of "people getting tired of playing the same shit over and over again", additionaly, its been up to 4 years i've dealing with it working as hard and as much as i can to properly fit that i wanted to create, tho, its currently nothing bad related to people requiring to learn new stuff as there are yet the all already known stuff and classes (which may i have only changed a little to fit the server idea) and by the time passes, people will have their chance to check/test anything at their hands, and so play it or leave it depending of their style or interests... talking about the skills/effects/etc, i've started with it on the release of H5 client, i have certainly changed a lot related to the game mechanics (if these even exists) and so, it became necessary to add some new stuff, as there are a lot of useless classes which i wanted to center people atention on, and so, there are yet (as you said) a lot of stuff may i have to work on, but thats the point of this, creating something awesome that make people want to play until they die (again lol). Anyway, thanks for your answers.

 

 

First of all you talk to much. Thats bad to begin with.

 

Secondly check this out http://l2aepvp.net/forum/index.php a c6 pridelike server made from professionals and still struggle to keep more than 150 online this season. Who are you and what are your skills to make something good ?

Edited May 8, 2015 by xxdem

[Epiquin]

c6 pridelike server made from professionals and still struggle to keep more than 150 online this season

 

 "people getting tired of playing the same shit over and over again"

Duh.

 

I don't see how people still cling to making C6 servers with mild changes to server config and rates.

 

My grandma could open up a notepad and make a server like that.

 

Whats good about http://l2aepvp.net/forum/index.php ? Name one thing they did no one else did that had any merit. 

Edited May 8, 2015 by Epiquin

[xxdem]

Duh.

 

Thats a trashtalk, he brags that he will bring something different while he repeats over and over that he goes for pridelike ?

[DopeAgent]

Where and when did i mentioned something about being pridelike? its you misunderstanding the point, its nothing similar to that and so, being a custom server does not means you will always be a pridelike, it is pointless to talk to someone with a closed mind who bases its opinion upon a copycat shit made to be play in one of the older chronicles... anyway, i thanks you for your answers, and please keep ip out of spam, i just want people to leave their opinions to know where to poit my project...

 

EDIT: forgot to mention something, what is that make these guys being "professionals"? whats the point to compare my work to something that is just a copy of another already dead project? just dont missunderstand.

Edited May 8, 2015 by DopeAgent

[xxdem]

Where and when did i mentioned something about being pridelike? its you misunderstanding the point, its nothing similar to that and so, being a custom server does not means you will always be a pridelike, it is pointless to talk to someone with a closed mind who bases its opinion upon a copycat shit made to be play in one of the older chronicles... anyway, i thanks you for your answers, and please keep ip out of spam, i just want people to leave their opinions to know where to poit my project...

 

EDIT: forgot to mention something, what is that make these guys being "professionals"? whats the point to compare my work to something that is just a copy of another already dead project? just dont missunderstand.

 

Its coded by professional developers including me. Copy or not, there is not a single developer that can code whats under L2AEPvP's hood, so quit the trashtalk amateur kiddo, you've learned how to edit NPCs some skills and stats that does not discriminate you from every inspired random dude that pops here every few weeks bragging that this time it will be different.

 

 

Duh.

 

I don't see how people still cling to making C6 servers with mild changes to server config and rates.

 

My grandma could open up a notepad and make a server like that.

 

Whats good about http://l2aepvp.net/forum/index.php ? Name one thing they did no one else did that had any merit. 

 

lmao, first login and then talk

Edited May 8, 2015 by xxdem

[Epiquin]

That's not how it works. I don't use a product and decide if I want to buy it. The seller induces me to buy it by doing his job and convincing me it's a worthwhile purchase. AKA advertising. You've mentioned nothing that convinces me to login. The lack of players proves my point.

 

I have no interest in joining a server that you admitted is not popular.

 

Or a server where admins have admitted they did

not do proper advertising

not do proper testing

post generic update logs (probably because you did the same NPC XML edits you bash the OP with)

follow in the usual season bullshit like its the perpetual Grey's Anatomy episode for the Xth year. I already spotted that you did nothing for the economy, hence you server needs wipes. Ever wonder that players sniff this shit out like hounds and simply do not join because they know when the critical mass of the server is? Not rocket science - there is a distinct period when people know everyone they will compete with is well established and competing is pointless.

 

Yes the OP is next in line after all the other enthusiasts who joined this forum and said they will "change" something.

 

But at least he outlined the things he did. All you did was drop a link to yet another generic server.

Edited May 8, 2015 by Epiquin

[xxdem]

That's not how it works. I don't use a product and decide if I want to buy it. The seller induces me to buy it by doing his job and convincing me it's a worthwhile purchase. AKA advertising. You've mentioned nothing that convinces me to login. The lack of players proves my point.

 

I have no interest in joining a server that you admitted is not popular.

 

Or a server where admins have admitted they did

not do proper advertising

not do proper testing

post generic update logs (probably because you did the same NPC XML edits you bash the OP with)

follow in the usual season bullshit like its the perpetual Grey's Anatomy episode for the Xth year. I already spotted that you did nothing for the economy, hence you server needs wipes. Ever wonder that players sniff this shit out like hounds and simply do not join because they know when the critical mass of the server is? Not rocket science - there is a distinct period when people know everyone they will compete with is well established and competing is pointless.

 

Yes the OP is next in line after all the other enthusiasts who joined this forum and said they will "change" something.

 

But at least he outlined the things he did. All you did was drop a link to yet another generic server.

 

 

You're just saying what a brainwashed sheep you are, that you depend clearly on marketing and propaganda. I dont blame you brother, I just pitty your stereotyped self.

Edited May 8, 2015 by xxdem

[DopeAgent]

Again, i think you are way too wrong, specialy when talking about "professionals" and judging my knowledge without any idea about, tho, i'm currently finishing my Engineering career and working since 2 years ago for google creating apps, im maybe not an high skilled person when we talk about Java but yet its not a big deal since it is not a way too different to most programing languages, yet i dont see what makes you a "professional" and either what allows you to criticize someone by your unfounded conjectures. Anyway, thanks for your answers.

Tho, im pretty sure you didn't even read the beginning of this topic nor read any of what i've mentioned above. Additionally i didn't even listed or show anything of what i'm doing, just gave some ideas of a yet unfinished project due to the reason that i made this thread, "What do you think people wants nowdays"?
 

Edited May 8, 2015 by DopeAgent

[xxdem]

Again, i think you are way too wrong, specialy when talking about "professionals" and judging my knowledge without any idea about, tho, i'm currently finishing my Engineering career and working since 2 years ago for google creating apps, im maybe not an high skilled person when we talk about Java but yet its not a big deal since it is not a way too different to most programing languages, yet i dont see what makes you a "professional" and either what allows you to criticize someone by your unfounded conjectures. Anyway, thanks for your answers.

 

I know fluent c++, which helped me learn fluent java in a few weeks just by coding for myself.

 

 

Anyway the topic is not made for me, its made for your server so lets stay intopic

Edited May 8, 2015 by xxdem