Discussion L2Ext Team - Interlude Extender (New)

[Sighed]

If you do not know the story, you cannot call it a rebrand.

 

 

There is perhaps some truth to the years of own development - but it depends on unknowns we do not know....yet anyway.

If you've heard some of the rumours there certainly are several possible story arcs to this - with a little bit of imagination.

 

But if someone buys this - please send it to me.

I would fully unpack this just to find out the source comparisons.

For what i heard Vanganth sold some time ago part of his source code, so im smelling a complete rename and some added/modded functionalities, and yeah, a basic rip off.

[mcbigmac]

For what i heard Vanganth sold some time ago part of his source code, so im smelling a complete rename and some added/modded functionalities, and yeah, a basic rip off.

 

If he sold it - it's not a ripoff.

 

But i wonder what "Part of" means specificly.

 

 

 

They're certainly not interested in talking to me on skype :)

[Sighed]

If he sold it - it's not a ripoff.

 

But i wonder what "Part of" means specificly.

 

 

 

They're certainly not interested in talking to me on skype :)

Why not a rip off ? Changing names and the way the .ini is parsed by the extender in Visual Studio, pressing compile, and adding a layer of armadillo for example as it is the most common, i call it a ripoff.

[sandeagle]

seems Vanganth will closed his project...its good news or a bad news...he will left like Fred?

 

Vampire -> Fred -> Xeonc

 

who is Xeonc???never heard this guy...a russ guy?

 

now

Vanganth -> La2world ???

 

 

well,seems l2 was still toward the path of death...

Edited November 10, 2013 by sandeagle

[MWZ]

seems Vanganth will closed his project...its good news or a bad news...he will left like Fred?

 

Vampire -> Fred -> Xeonc

 

who is Xeonc???never heard this guy...a russ guy?

 

now

Vanganth -> La2world ???

 

 

well,seems l2 was still toward the path of death...

 

Vampire never leaved, he is still a developer on advext, also Kvoxi is working together him. Xeonc is just the 'front end guy', he takes the money, delivery the files. But the developers are in the background.

[minideed]

seems Vanganth will closed his project...its good news or a bad news...he will left like Fred?

 

Vampire -> Fred -> Xeonc

 

who is Xeonc???never heard this guy...a russ guy?

 

now

Vanganth -> La2world ???

 

 

well,seems l2 was still toward the path of death...

 

Where is your proof? Did Vanganth tell you this personally? Please show us how and where you got into information else you are only guessing.

[sandeagle]

Where is your proof? Did Vanganth tell you this personally? Please show us how and where you got into information else you are only guessing.

hahah...dont mind....i just guess..just guess...

 

 

Vampire never leaved, he is still a developer on advext, also Kvoxi is working together him. Xeonc is just the 'front end guy', he takes the money, delivery the files. But the developers are in the background.

 

thx for your explain...

Edited November 11, 2013 by sandeagle

[La2Ext]

Many are speculating whem it comes to L2OFF development, seems to be a hard topic. We understand that many believe that it is reselling going on here because it is an incredibly common thing within l2off, just for the reason that there are very few who can extend executables at all. The guys that have knowledge in this area they know that it is not incredibly much work to extend c4 to IL, the job that took the most time was the skill effects, extending classes and the clan system, rest was not that time consuming. Regarding bugs/exploits they are fixed over time, and it is a process that goes on all the time. If anyone have any questions about the development so feel free to ask.
 

Share a test pack - or at-least prove it's your own.

 

Seems extremely unlikely you've developed your own from ground up.

Infact i'll sell my left nut - if there's not some involvement within the 2 established "brands".

 

...I smell a good story ;)

 

We will fix a trial version if it is needed to prove, a lot is about to prove when it comes to l2off it seems, but it's just for the reason that there are many resellers and that we are a new product. I also have a question, l2off developer status in this forum does not mean "codevice" and more like scripters, for example You and Sighed? I ask just because of the reason of knowledge transfer.

 

For questions about our product, visit our forum.

 

-La2Ext

Edited November 11, 2013 by La2Ext

[mcbigmac]

Many are speculating whem it comes to L2OFF development, seems to be a hard topic. We understand that many believe that it is reselling going on here because it is an incredibly common thing within l2off, just for the reason that there are very few who can extend executables at all. The guys that have knowledge in this area they know that it is not incredibly much work to extend c4 to IL, the job that took the most time was the skill effects, extending classes and the clan system, rest was not that time consuming. Regarding bugs/exploits they are fixed over time, and it is a process that goes on all the time. If anyone have any questions about the development so feel free to ask.

 

 

We will fix a trial version if it is needed to prove, a lot is about to prove when it comes to l2off it seems, but it's just for the reason that there are many resellers and that we are a new product. I also have a question, l2off developer status in this forum does not mean "codevice" and more like scripters, for example You and Sighed? I ask just because of the reason of knowledge transfer.

 

For questions about our product, visit our forum.

 

-La2Ext

 

You would do well to research - before you speculate on who can do what in this forum.

 

I do not believe you've built stuff from ground up.

As said, there may be more to certain seller fronts than others.

 

 

There's alot more than skilleffects and clansystem and class extensions - to a more complete interlude extension.

Your poor english and poor technical description of certain things makes it very sure - you personally haven't been spending cozy nights infront of IDA.

 

I don't care if you illegimately obtained one of the camps sources - or bought it.

That's your job to create a compelling product and sell it however you want - i'm just interested in the full story.

 

So share a "testlicense".

Edited November 11, 2013 by mcbigmac

[La2Ext]

You would do well to research - before you speculate on who can do what in this forum.

 

I do not believe you've built stuff from ground up.

As said, there may be more to certain seller fronts than others.

 

 

There's alot more than skilleffects and clansystem and class extensions - to a more complete interlude extension.

Your poor english and poor technical description of certain things makes it very sure - you personally haven't been spending cozy nights infront of IDA.

 

I don't care if you illegimately obtained one of the camps sources - or bought it.

That's your job to create a compelling product and sell it however you want - i'm just interested in the full story.

 

So share a "testlicense".

 

Hi, I make a "point list" instead of writing a novel, you have pointed out that my English is poor and I agree, but I suppose that you understand me.

 

You would do well to research - before you speculate on who can do what in this forum.

 

It was more a question of what this status means, for exchange of knowledge at certain issues / questions.

 

I do not believe you've built stuff from ground up.

 

 

We did, but libraries used for sure.

 

 

There's alot more than skilleffects and clansystem and class extensions - to a more complete interlude extension.

 

If you read again you will see that I pointed out what took the most time in our development, there are more things to make to complete interlude that I am very aware of, but nothing that took that much time.

 

Your poor english and poor technical description of certain things makes it very sure - you personally haven't been spending cozy nights infront of IDA.

 

I use IDA, what else would I use you expect? according to me it is the perfect tool for it.

 

So share a "testlicense".

 

I have already answered this question, we'll make an opportunity for testing in short.

 

-La2Ext

[mcbigmac]

"But libraries used for sure".

 

There are no "libraries" - not with any info pertaining to the daemons atleast. Else everyone would extend.

Which points me more and more to my supposed theory of your acquisition of a certain project.

(Which is fine by itself - good luck building from that).

 

You've said you can't just release a test license because cracking it would be too easy to me on skype as well (atleast if working with limited sockets\users online).

Which would dictate your not very well versed\equipped (You\Your Dev ) within this world as well.

(Or you dev's have poor capability - seeing as you haven't build stuff from the ground up in my head).

 

Either way - i geuss we'll figure out once someone buys or you share a testlicense.

Edited November 11, 2013 by mcbigmac

[La2Ext]

"But libraries used for sure".

 

There are no "libraries" - not with any info pertaining to the daemons atleast. Else everyone would extend.

Which points me more and more to my supposed theory of your acquisition of a certain project.

(Which is fine by itself - good luck building from that).

 

You've said you can't just release a test license because cracking it would be too easy to me on skype as well (atleast if working with limited sockets\users online).

Which would dictate your not very well versed\equipped (You\Your Dev ) within this world as well.

(Or you dev's have poor capability - seeing as you haven't build stuff from the ground up in my head).

 

Either way - i geuss we'll figure out once someone buys or you share a testlicense.

 

You fail to understand my point.

 

"But libraries used for sure". - What I mean is, for example libMinHook engine (for hooking) and RapidXML for parsing settings.

Edited November 11, 2013 by La2Ext

[mcbigmac]

And you fail to understand what little use a simple hooking lib(And one for Windows API's - who gives a shit?)  - and a bloody class to parse text -  is to someone who builds extensions\code upon big leaked BINs while researching them ;)

Edited November 11, 2013 by mcbigmac

[La2Ext]

And you fail to understand what little use a simple hooking lib(And one for Windows API's - who gives a shit?)  - and a bloody class to parse text -  is to someone who builds extensions\code upon big leaked BINs while researching them ;)

 

I see no negative part of using these, so you're right that I do not understand you. The use of an xml parsing engine is very useful because all the custom features using this as standard implementation. If someone does not like this, it is easy to just switch implementation between the parsing interface to fit something else. Anything else on your mind ?

[La2Ext]

This start becoming incredibly ridiculous, can you guys take your discussions in the General section instead or private messages..

 

-La2Ext

Edited November 11, 2013 by La2Ext