I would suggest an option here on both sides, i think you both know especially @Vilmis the websites like freelancer (dot) com. So what they actually do is that when you pay for a service, you do agree that your money is going to be locked, what actually happens after that is, the funds stays at the platform, neither buyer nor the seller has the ability to claim the funds. Upon completing the service the buyer will click the "button" that he's let's say satisfied with the service, so then the seller claims the funds. What i mean by that? I'm pretty sure cause we are at 2024 that there should be a service such as this, thus maybe the buyer would have the upper hand cause he could just call his bank and complaint about the purchase, however just because such services has chat and you really do both talk through that platform by the time being, then there are logs, of course the messages wouldn't have the ability to be removed so logs going to stay. I know for a fact that the problem persists regarding the funds, however the logs on the other hand are there, so then there's a proof who's to blame. I hate scammers, either if he's a buyer or a seller, but that's because we're making sure to protect the buyer (banks side), however how about the seller? For instance, imagine working on a project years and years to make it fit the customer's expectations, then somebody decides to purchase it, but of course because he is "clever" or should i say "scammer", he decides to claim the funds and of course take the digital product which the seller worked for years free of charge, well? If that's not a scam, what's it then? So i don't take any sides here cause there's no clear logs of what actually happened, all i'm trying to say is that i'm sick of this because you know? That's why i'm not offering nor buying at all, i mean i've pretty much many thinks to offer but i don't, because at the end that's what going to happen. I might end up a seller or a buyer who got scammed, we've 2024 this has never changed, MaxCheaters is a forum on the other hand, of course because it's famous platform one will complain and try to humiliate another, because he feels that he got scammed or something happened, but at the end if there's no strong evidence for it, why have you even created the topic to begin with? I don't know we're grown up people (that's what i believe) still, that's not enough as it seems....