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at start you put +15db and the noob put his +15am you tell him that you have to make rr cause u cant see his weapon and you have one db+0 at your invetory when u log in you have to tellhim that u have only one minute at your time at net..then you trade him and you put db +0 and the noob put +15 and he isnt going to see your weapon and he will confirm the trade so you have db +15 and his weapon +15 and you only loose a +0 weapon

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