well i have no words to say i really like that you help me a lot to improve my skills i really appreciate and i thank you thousand of times:) well this is not an outcome from the tut that you gave me but i have read from there the tools and how to use them and i put them here well...about the render i was though that it would be cool to put the skull shit in a sig;p but as i see its crap well i downloaded some renders from the site that you gave me and they are cool and i will make sigs with that renders soon...thanks again.