SGuard Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 hours ago, AlmostGood said: running malware on user PCs to sniff on each of their actions sure looks more trustworthy than bot LUL Thats why most guards are MS key certified and bots are not going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trance Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) They are very helpful and take their business seriously. Edited June 11, 2020 by Trance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zake Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I'm sorry but i may ask a question that many have already asked, but i see you bumping this post. Why anyone should buy bot protection while anyone can pay to andrenaline 20Euros and bypass anything he wants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GsL Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Zake said: I'm sorry but i may ask a question that many have already asked, but i see you bumping this post. Why anyone should buy bot protection while anyone can pay to andrenaline 20Euros and bypass anything he wants? i think there is a protection that stop adrenaline ... sguard cant stop it .. so no reason to buy it , my opinion... well it blocks some other free bots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zake Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, GsL said: i think there is a protection that stop adrenaline ... sguard cant stop it .. so no reason to buy it , my opinion... well it blocks some other free bots or you can just add captcha and update it's images/patterns continuously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contessina* Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zake said: or you can just add captcha and update it's images/patterns continuously plus all bots like strix guard smart guard and this one create problems to log in for players anti virus delete their files and they cant log in , many players have 0 IQ to fix such problems... i hope our replys dont delete , use such protections in your owo risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabayG Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Product is simply not worth it, better pay for a simple guard for clickers etc and pay for 2 bot hunters or continuously update captcha as Zake said. Also I don't like their attitude "do you know how much you need to spend if you want to completely block adrenaline?? ". Well in fact, I don't since you are the expert. Serious botters use adrenaline. So you basically tell me that I pay you to block adrenaline and you can't... My pack already blocks gipsy bot programs like l2net, tower etc. Well if you think about it your protection is kinda selling oxygen, while it's already free, am I wrong? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raws Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 This so called protection is dead Adrenaline works 100% Hwid spoofer works 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGSLineage2 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Zake said: or you can just add captcha and update it's images/patterns continuously Or just a captcha with randomly generated characters like I do :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zake Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, TGSLineage2 said: Or just a captcha with randomly generated characters like I do :) characters are bypassable i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGSLineage2 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Zake said: characters are bypassable i think Is a randomly generated code less efficient than an image? Now that I think about it, maybe you're right. Edited June 26, 2020 by TGSLineage2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zake Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 10 hours ago, TGSLineage2 said: Is a randomly generated code less efficient than an image? Now that I think about it, maybe you're right. This is not what i mention in my post but yes it could be less efficient once it's bypassed with a pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGuard Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 I'll summarize my answer about what was written here in my absence: 1. Sguard protection is signed via MS certification, so no virus flags. 2. We have close to zero connection issues. 3. Any protection is better than no protection, regardless what you feel about this particular product. Disagree? Open a server > 200 players and you'll see why. 4. Any captchas or other server tricks are easily bypassed. Characters or visuals. (again open up a server with more than 200 players) 5. Active bot fight is hard, therefore any additional service e.g adrenaline or spoofer is an extra service - I've never said or gave false hopes to anybody in public or private that when you pay 200$ a year or 50$ a month you will get adrenaline paid protection or spoofer protection, many customers are totally satisfied with basic protection functions, like hwid and basic bot/clicker/interface protection. As I've been long saying, admins should reconsider how much they want to invest in protection services. We're not antivirus with a million customers and there's no way we'll gain so much audience, ever. L2 is a small type of business. While all clients are spread between 5+ protections. Fees for services are going to stay as they are. However if you want adrenaline/spoofer detection, the prices are crystal clear: 1. Adrenaline/helper(paid versions) - 200$/1 month. 2. Spoofer - 1000$ one time payment. (have to have basic sguard annual). Regarding oxigen, I bet servers like GameCoast and Beyond wouldn't pay for oxygen. Nobody have to work for free, I bet you don't. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GsL Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, SGuard said: I'll summarize my answer about what was written here in my absence: 1. Sguard protection is signed via MS certification, so no virus flags. 2. We have close to zero connection issues. 3. Any protection is better than no protection, regardless what you feel about this particular product. Disagree? Open a server > 200 players and you'll see why. 4. Any captchas or other server tricks are easily bypassed. Characters or visuals. (again open up a server with more than 200 players) 5. Active bot fight is hard, therefore any additional service e.g adrenaline or spoofer is an extra service - I've never said or gave false hopes to anybody in public or private that when you pay 200$ a year or 50$ a month you will get adrenaline paid protection or spoofer protection, many customers are totally satisfied with basic protection functions, like hwid and basic bot/clicker/interface protection. As I've been long saying, admins should reconsider how much they want to invest in protection services. We're not antivirus with a million customers and there's no way we'll gain so much audience, ever. L2 is a small type of business. While all clients are spread between 5+ protections. Fees for services are going to stay as they are. However if you want adrenaline/spoofer detection, the prices are crystal clear: 1. Adrenaline/helper(paid versions) - 200$/1 month. 2. Spoofer - 1000$ one time payment. (have to have basic sguard annual). Regarding oxigen, I bet servers like GameCoast and Beyond wouldn't pay for oxygen. Nobody have to work for free, I bet you don't. Take care. 1. Adrenaline/helper(paid versions) - 200$/1 month. 200 per month ? for block adrenaline ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AchYlek Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, GsL said: 1. Adrenaline/helper(paid versions) - 200$/1 month. 200 per month ? for block adrenaline ? ya and after adr dev sell you bypass for 30$ + 20$ key, but working only 1 active window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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