TehBot12

You got unlucky there buddy

It depends. If the server is crowded then, the trades are more hard to trace. Just create 20-40-60 accounts and pass the items with trade from char to char all time. At the end the traces will cease to exist. If an Administrator takes his time to investigate, then the trades will be lost from the logs.

Just now, L2RAPTOR said:

yes , but measure the % decrease in players from 2006 until now.. and apply to when Acis will be king..

Anyway, I think Acis has great potential .. but in the end,  there is a time limit on Interlude and all L2 chronicles. So many different new games open now. I love L2, but we are a dying species.

That's a problem for the future, in the time being, let's enjoy the game.

6 minutes ago, L2RAPTOR said:

I could attack you on your iTopz. but i wont sink to your level.

aCis will be king of java emulators in a couple years.

This could be true.. but how many will still be interested in L2 Interlude then?

Interlude released 2006. 15 years later, thousands of players are still active. What could happen in a couple years?

On 4/7/2021 at 5:30 PM, Kara said:

Dont go for the payment thing cause we could simply ask 500e for a code and admins would give them. In any freelance site the salary for a developer is high as fuck. Not these 10 euro for a code, 5 euro for small fix etc. Simply poor gipsies devs ruined and spoiled audience and now admins ask a job for less money. So avoid this conv cause you might live a day that you need to pay with your liver for a simple code if the remaining devs appreciate their knowledge and stop giving away things for 5 euro.

 

About how we get our post, first why you care yow many post each one has?

Show some respect to the remaining in this forum such as tryskell, those who answer in help sections etc. Cause without us you wouldnt have l2 nor a forum to write now. 

[offTopic]Increasing your prices won't get you the results you're hoping for. Also, If a Developer is worth 500/code he shouldn't just work for lineage2 emulators. You arrange your prices by the population of a game. I'm not against an "expensive" Developer. I'm against the whole diva attitude.[/offTopic]

aCis will be king of java emulators in a couple years. That's what i'm thinking.

On 4/5/2021 at 7:21 PM, Kara said:

Why do we really continue this conversation? Are you sane people? We really claim that players and admins are more important than a developer? @TehBot12 You realize if developer quit their job all servers will die within few hours? 

 

Players are dumb bots and the reasons a server degrade over time. Each one crying like a baby and he demands server changes, admin then apply those changes and other players get disappointed. In the end you adjust your whole server to match players taste and nobody is happy.

 

Players should -beep- and play or quit the gaming forever. Some people are meant to play some other are meant to lose some are meant to do something else other than gaming. Dying in Call of duty 10 times in row doesn't make Call of Duty a bad game, it's mean you're useless or amateur and no playing for many years as i heard as an excuse from some of my clients is stupid. Time might helps but it doesn't mean playing Lineage 2 for 10 years make you a decent person to have opinion over game changes. 

 

So now that we threw players as left over chicken wings to the garbage bin, let's discuss about administrators.

Majority of them are wannabe people who reached the maximum level of lineage 2 (probably in some x 1000 server with a 100% safe enchant rate aka Pride like servers) and they decided to rule community with their experienced perspective. Their opinion unshakable and of course on top of everyone's else.

Their experience after watching OUR tutorial and OUR work while we perform in their computer via some remote software reaches up to to XML & HTML edit. You will hear many of them claiming that they even know how to read or edit a code even tho they don't know that an armor texture is not a DEVELOPER'S JOB!

 

No "Administrators" of Lineage 2 community, you can't code, you can't read a code and you can't do anything without us. Because you read a function "isHero()" and understand it because Java is human friendly language doesn't make you a person who understand programming. We are not fools sitting for 5-10 years to own multiple languages to end up arguing with a guy who get excited because he copy paste values in XML.

Let's no mix up our job and not mistaken your position here. You do nothing special other than advertise project, take decisions and edit few configurations. In the end of the day you gonna cry to your developer for fixing up bugs or change systems.

 

 

 

I've seen "admins" ruining developer's work. I've seen Administrators rulling in the business.

After all, If no Admins, then no Devs. Except if a Developer is also an Administrator. In that case delete everything I said. Administrators and Developers should work as an entity. I'm observing an attitude here. Not only from you, but in a lot of Developers I've come across those years. Players report to Admins, then Admins think about what to do and they report to Developers. And @Kara if no servers, then no job for you. Remember that. Developers not the top of the iceberg stop acting like it. We all have the same motivation that keeps us working. My job is equally important as yours. If my server has lots of people, then it has lots of donations. Lots of donations = More codes from you.
 

And that's how you all have 2k+ posts in this forum. Ok, I get it now.

1 hour ago, Kara said:

Well this is how we communicate. You should see when a developer has a girlfriend and she get mad and yell at you and one morning she wakeup with a note on her head saying: "GC Z im available". She wont get the joke neither you.

I see.

Just now, Kara said:

 Why you all act like drama queens? Where u saw trashtalk? I said that his project is not great and he has no people.

Well, I'm reading the whole topic. Doesn't need that much brain to realize the trashtalk

2 minutes ago, Kara said:

 Nobody mention players. We talk about the guy who claim he own a great pack and orion is a great project. We say our opinion and he write "stfu" to all.   

 

So i say to the owner of the pack, provide us the jar of your server and ill analyze each file why its bad. Base on your photos on your website you have no experience. No serious person post photos in website with admin write wyvern for no reason.  This is like show off. Look people im GM.

Trash talk is always a bad thing. Can we please keep this civilized? Well, as possible.
Isn't the goal to achieve a project that is actually playable for the players?
Otherwise, why to begin developing an emulator? Is it fun, or?

Well, this escalated quickly. In conclusion. If a developer knows his shit, packs doesn't matter.
Also, if a Administrator knows his shit too, also the pack doesn't matter.
As @StinkyMadness said, players are the final judge. If the players doesn't like the server then it doesn't really matter if it's aCis or Lucera, Orion, Frozen, OFF.
#changemymind

On 3/21/2021 at 12:57 AM, L2RAPTOR said:

I am sure that ACIS and Lucera have their positives. Some things I did not like with these packs:

1. Trying to swim up from a necropolis or catacomb...trying to get out is ridiculous...

2. Bosses cast hold skill on player and player can not hit boss but boss + minions hit player

3. No separation of player shops so players can not walk between

4. Mob/Raid Boss behavior i did not like

Maybe these have been fixed now. I dont know. But these are problems that impact players.

 

I know Athena Project is another option but the servers I have played on with this pack i did not like.

 

Years ago,  L2OFF packs were by far better than L2J packs. But today, L2J packs with updated files are just as good or better.

 

I have had L2jORION files for 4 years and  I am very happy. Prices are reasonable, support is excellent, and necessary updates have been added.

I NEVER hear a complaint from players about geo data or server performance.

This is just an opinion of an admin/player of these other packs and as a satisfied client of L2jORION. Good Luck.

 

 The thing with L2OFF is that, it is extremely hard to make customs.
Everything has it's pros and cons. Although the question is about Java emulators.
I'm going to stick with my original opinion and say aCis once more.
I would like more members of the community, fellow users of aCis or Lucera to respond.
I'm saying it again. This is not a topic to help me decide which emulator is best for me.
This topic was created to determine what the community thinks!

/discuss

2 hours ago, Elfocrash said:

Yeah don't bother, just use aCis.

I'm already using aCis. I just wanted to know your opinions.

1 hour ago, SweeTs said:

More like, if you want a ready to go server, take Lucera. Otherwise, aCis, yet you will have to implement all what you need and fix potential issues.

 

People are using Lucera since ages and say it's good enough, no major bugs and have shitload of customs.

 

Everything depends what you really want. A project to worn on or you want to open a ready to use server.

 

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Btw, hello fellas. Long time no see*.

 

* - not coming back, no time for mxc bullshits, just saying hello

Thanks for your opinion. It really matters that you said that.

14 hours ago, Elfocrash said:

I know that Deazer hates me and I don't like the guy either but objectively Lucera is better coded and uses better tech. The bar is low for both projects but if Lucera is a 10 then aCis is a 6, purely based on tech and code.

That doesn't make it a better project, but the java side is more on par which what you would see but someone who writes Java for a living rather than someone who is self taught.

 

That being said, aCis is a better overall project. A project isn't just the code. It's the leadership, the direction, the monetization model and so much more.

 

So yeah if you're only interesting in the "Java" aspect then Lucera is better but if you want a good project aCis is a no brainer. Deazer treats his customers like dogshit based on the PMs that I've seen. Also Lucera is closed source so if even if the Java side is better, you are limited by the plugin engine.

So in conclusion, having a server based on Lucera is just dumb. You are limited to use his formulas (even tho some of them are terrible) and you can't change much.

45 minutes ago, Kara said:

Avoid any Russian source. They just throw code inside as if it's their ex, they're skipping readability and flexibility just for the sake of "it works so it's fine leave it that way". 

Programming and especially Java, does not work that way. Ignore players or others that claim that movement is better. (I say this personally cause i have access in all sources from my client(s) including all Script's source up to the latest and the way the code is written would provoke any developer to quit and find new interest.

 

aCis on the other than is a well structured and clean pack. There is no major difference for a PvP server between 360 aCis and 392 other than rename, refactoring. For low rate that quest(s) e.t.c. are a must is a different situation but still you need a developer to work with.

 

Currently the situation of all pack is worst than 10 years ago. Even L2JServer has quit their major core fixes and pay attention in custom. If you take clean L2JServer-H5 from 2016 and clean L2JServer-H5 from 2021 you will see no huge difference.

 

The problem is no the packs and the project itself.

The problem is with every person like you that pop up every 2 week and re-open the same topic about Lucera vs aCis, frozen vs aCis e.t.c. 

Same thing i see in other forums for best 3D software. 3D's max vs Maya. It all come down to what you want to use it for, your knowledge and your time. Every emulator is done it's work so far "fine". 

 

If you plan to copy make a server equal to the quality of the official Lineage][ game for few bucks that i guess is your budget then no cause even official is full of problems.

Pick one that fits to your needs.

 

I'm working on aCis since 2016. It is not an issue on what pack I will choose. I never dealt with Lucera but as i said above, just because someone pointed out that Lucera has better features, I wanted to know the community's opinion. I'm saying that because half of your answer was unnecessary.
Thanks for your opinion tho.

Just now, Xtellia said:

Old lucera is garbage. New one isn't good too and has no source code available.

Acis is obviously better. New acis revs are unstable though and have tons of bugs. Old ones are nicely done if you fix some hundreds of easy bugs there.

Well, I'm sure that @Tryskell will keep updating the sources.
That's why I'm asking the community of MxC.
Lots of known or unknown issues are already fixed in Lucera. Then again, aCis has an active team and a very active audience that tests daily.

1 minute ago, melron said:

My opinion, undoubtedly acis. Just because russian coding style is not my style.

 

Both of them, have different purposes. Lucera is not trying to achieve an l2off performance while for acis, retailness is the primary target.

 

Its clearly about what you are looking for.

So in conclusion, both sources are "equaly good"?

Just now, Williams said:

aCis - Changesets - Announcements - MaxCheaters.com | Lineage 2 Development Marketplace Bots and Cheats

 

draw your conclusions.

I'm familiar with Tryskell's work. But a friend of mine has pointed out that Lucera files are more "stable" and ahead of aCis. Ofcourse i thought this must be a joke but i just need to see what the community thinks about it.
/discuss

Just now, Williams said:

lucera is a waste of time and is not as well built as MASTER @Tryskell aCIs does a great job.

This is what i believe also. But i wanted to see the community's opinion.

Just now, Williams said:

aCis XD

I did mention tell me the reasons you believe such thing.

2 minutes ago, melron said:

Define 'better'

Java side primely.

As the title says. Describe which is better and why.
Go!

10 hours ago, Dragic said:

Title has been edited! 

 

Added L2J Prefix and removed the grand opening date since is forbidden to use titles like this by MaxCheaters Private Server Rules.

 

Please read and respect our forum rules before post anything. 

 

P.S I think is better to use Normal English symbols most people can't read this. - Just an opinion! 

 

Regards! 

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